Mr_Dogg Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 52 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: 11m55s onwards. Romano talking about Bissouma deal being complicated and that Newcastle are in for him. Can't really see this one happening as there will be too much interest from the top 4 teams. What top 4 clubs? I have seen no links to top 4 clubs in this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: What top 4 clubs? I have seen no links to top 4 clubs in this window. Next window i think they mean. He is holding out till the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) Had to laugh very loudly at this spite ridden article in the local Brighton rag regards us being after Bissouma!!! Belittling our club as much as they possibly could by headlining us as "1996 coca-cola cup winners" and intimating our fan base are deluded as to the potential of the club whilst going large on the fact that their sole achievement over us is finishing higher than us in 5 of the last 6 seasons! No mention of anything else prior to that as it would not suit their one eyed agenda to try & big up their poxy little club to look on an even keel with us. .... Jokers. They have even set up their local readers with the "the only reason he would possibly go to Villa for is ££££'s" illusion. I throw it back at them Delusion on a MASSIVE scale They are that clued up on the football World that they even called our owners "Chinese" Bunch of muppets CLICKY Here it is... Why losing Yves Bissouma to 1996 Coca Cola Cup winners Aston Villa is not as unlikely as it may sound Those of you who have not heard where the rumour mill is sending him may be surprised by the destination. Over the past year remember, Bissouma has been linked with Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Manchester City, Real Madrid and Paris Saint Germain. So, who are the gossip pages saying is going to be his next club? Aston Villa. Yeah, that Aston Villa. The Aston Villa below Brighton in the Premier League table. Who have finished lower than the Albion in the footballing pyramid for all but one of the past six seasons. And whose fans believe they are one of the greatest clubs in the country still despite their last piece of silverware being the 1996 Coca Cola Cup. It is easy to scoff at the idea of Bissouma moving to Villa. I have just proven that in the previous paragraph. Many Albion supporters have done a passable impression of the Laughing Policeman, guffawing at those pushing their Bissouma to Villa narrative. Why would be go there?! But the worrying, uncomfortable truth is that there is every chance Bissouma could move to Villa, if not in January then in the summer. The Malian is out of contract in June 2023. If no new deal is agreed, then Brighton have only two-and-a-half transfer windows in which to sell before they risk seeing a player who could fetch them tens of millions of pounds walk away for nothing. Brighton fans have put forward many reasons as to why Bissouma to Villa is a non-starter, all of which can be dismissed quite easily. First, the comparisons to the Ben White situation in the summer of 2020. The theory goes that Tony Bloom would not sell White to Leeds United as they were a direct rival. Why then would he sell Bissouma to Villa who are similar? White was under a long-term contract with three years still to run when Leeds came bidding. Brighton had no need to sell no matter what Leeds offered. If Villa come in with an offer of £40 million in January – something they could easily afford thanks to their Jack Grealish windfall and rich Chinese owners - Tony Bloom has a very different decision to make. Bloom faces a difficult choice. If Bissouma has shown no indication of signing a new contract for Brighton, does Bloom extract the maximum he can for Brighton's star player as soon as possible? Or keep him, watch his contract run down and with it the amount a buying club will be willing to pay? Foreign clubs can open talks about a free transfer when a player enters their final six months, so if Real or PSG retain an interest then they could begin negotiations direct with Bissouma this time next year. For a player the Albion might have received £60 million for if a bid had been forthcoming last summer, Bloom will surely not take the latter of those options. Better to get £40 million in the bank now and reinvest that in reinforcements than nothing at all. Say Brighton do accept a bid from Villa. The next argument about him leaving stems from it looking a sideways move. As already noted, the Albion are above Steven Gerrard’s mob in the table. Brighton are also the club who gave Bissouma his chance in English football, turned him from a rough diamond into one of the best defensive midfielders in the Premier League. They have stuck by him through publicised off-the-pitch issues, which may yet be suitably off-putting to potential suitors that none decide to follow up their interest with a firm bid. That adds another layer of complication to the situation. Given all of that, you would hope Bissouma retains some loyalty to Brighton. No doubt Southampton fans felt exactly the same about Danny Ings. The striker had revitalised his career at St Mary's, becoming a regular in the England squad after an injury hit time at Liverpool. Ings thanked them by leaving for Villa Park in a cut-price sale the Saints were pressured to make as he entered the final year of his contract. A familiar story could play out 96 miles along the south coast in Sussex. There is the Gerrard factor too. Graham Potter is clearly liked by his players and an up-and-coming young coach. Might though the opportunity to work with one of the finest midfielders of the past 50 years be a draw for Bissouma? If Gerrard has the coaching ability to impart his knowledge and playing talent onto Bissouma, then it could be the catalyst he needs to take the next step and become one of the best box-to-box midfielders in the world. Ultimately, Bissouma’s decision is most likely to come down to cold, hard cash. Villa have much more of it than Brighton and that makes them an attractive proposition. Football fans tend to have a more romantic view beyond a bank balance, forgetting that most players have no attachment to the club they play for. They are here to take a wage. It is an employer-employee relationship. With Bissouma away at AFCON for the next few weeks, it seems unlikely that his situation – be it a new contract or the Albion reluctantly agreeing to sell – will be sorted until towards the end of the January window, if it all. Bissouma joining Villa is obviously the worst case scenario for how this situation pans out. The best is that he signs a new Brighton deal, respecting what Brighton have done for his career and that they have supported him in every way possible. The most likely? Villa make an offer for Brighton and it sparks a bidding war. The likes of United, City, Liverpool and Arsenal decide they cannot pass up the opportunity to get a player of Bissouma's quality at a cheaper price compared to the fees being bandied about last summer. If Bissouma is to leave, nobody would begrudge him a move to one of the biggest clubs in the world. He has earned it and he deserves it. To lose him to Villa though would be disappointing, but a sign of the times – where cold hard cash (and the 1996 Coca Cola Cup) remains the biggest draw of all. Edited January 13, 2022 by danceoftheshamen 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, danceoftheshamen said: Had to laugh very loudly at this spite ridden article in the local Brighton rag regards us being after Bissouma!!! Belittling our club as much as they possibly could by headlining us as "1996 coca-cola cup winners" and intimating our fan base are deluded as to the potential of the club whilst going large on the fact that their sole achievement over us is finishing higher than us in 5 of the last 6 seasons! No mention of anything else prior to that as it would not suit their one eyed agenda to try & big up their poxy little club to look on an even keel with us. .... Jokers. They have even set up their local readers with the "the only reason he would possibly go to Villa for is ££££'s illusion. I throw it back at them Delusion on a MASSIVE scale They are that clued up on the football World that they even called our owners "Chinese" Bunch of muppets CLICKY So not only are they deluded down in retirementville, they're also racists. To be fair to them though, they won the Sussex Senior Challenge Cup in 1961. Edited January 13, 2022 by Steero113 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, danceoftheshamen said: Had to laugh very loudly at this spite ridden article in the local Brighton rag regards us being after Bissouma!!! Belittling our club as much as they possibly could by headlining us as "1996 coca-cola cup winners" and intimating our fan base are deluded as to the potential of the club whilst going large on the fact that their sole achievement over us is finishing higher than us in 5 of the last 6 seasons! No mention of anything else prior to that as it would not suit their one eyed agenda to try & big up their poxy little club to look on an even keel with us. .... Jokers. They have even set up their local readers with the "the only reason he would possibly go to Villa for is ££££'s" illusion. I throw it back at them Delusion on a MASSIVE scale They are that clued up on the football World that they even called our owners "Chinese" Bunch of muppets CLICKY Here it is... Why losing Yves Bissouma to 1996 Coca Cola Cup winners Aston Villa is not as unlikely as it may sound Those of you who have not heard where the rumour mill is sending him may be surprised by the destination. Over the past year remember, Bissouma has been linked with Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Manchester City, Real Madrid and Paris Saint Germain. So, who are the gossip pages saying is going to be his next club? Aston Villa. Yeah, that Aston Villa. The Aston Villa below Brighton in the Premier League table. Who have finished lower than the Albion in the footballing pyramid for all but one of the past six seasons. And whose fans believe they are one of the greatest clubs in the country still despite their last piece of silverware being the 1996 Coca Cola Cup. It is easy to scoff at the idea of Bissouma moving to Villa. I have just proven that in the previous paragraph. Many Albion supporters have done a passable impression of the Laughing Policeman, guffawing at those pushing their Bissouma to Villa narrative. Why would be go there?! But the worrying, uncomfortable truth is that there is every chance Bissouma could move to Villa, if not in January then in the summer. The Malian is out of contract in June 2023. If no new deal is agreed, then Brighton have only two-and-a-half transfer windows in which to sell before they risk seeing a player who could fetch them tens of millions of pounds walk away for nothing. Brighton fans have put forward many reasons as to why Bissouma to Villa is a non-starter, all of which can be dismissed quite easily. First, the comparisons to the Ben White situation in the summer of 2020. The theory goes that Tony Bloom would not sell White to Leeds United as they were a direct rival. Why then would he sell Bissouma to Villa who are similar? White was under a long-term contract with three years still to run when Leeds came bidding. Brighton had no need to sell no matter what Leeds offered. If Villa come in with an offer of £40 million in January – something they could easily afford thanks to their Jack Grealish windfall and rich Chinese owners - Tony Bloom has a very different decision to make. Bloom faces a difficult choice. If Bissouma has shown no indication of signing a new contract for Brighton, does Bloom extract the maximum he can for Brighton's star player as soon as possible? Or keep him, watch his contract run down and with it the amount a buying club will be willing to pay? Foreign clubs can open talks about a free transfer when a player enters their final six months, so if Real or PSG retain an interest then they could begin negotiations direct with Bissouma this time next year. For a player the Albion might have received £60 million for if a bid had been forthcoming last summer, Bloom will surely not take the latter of those options. Better to get £40 million in the bank now and reinvest that in reinforcements than nothing at all. Say Brighton do accept a bid from Villa. The next argument about him leaving stems from it looking a sideways move. As already noted, the Albion are above Steven Gerrard’s mob in the table. Brighton are also the club who gave Bissouma his chance in English football, turned him from a rough diamond into one of the best defensive midfielders in the Premier League. They have stuck by him through publicised off-the-pitch issues, which may yet be suitably off-putting to potential suitors that none decide to follow up their interest with a firm bid. That adds another layer of complication to the situation. Given all of that, you would hope Bissouma retains some loyalty to Brighton. No doubt Southampton fans felt exactly the same about Danny Ings. The striker had revitalised his career at St Mary's, becoming a regular in the England squad after an injury hit time at Liverpool. Ings thanked them by leaving for Villa Park in a cut-price sale the Saints were pressured to make as he entered the final year of his contract. A familiar story could play out 96 miles along the south coast in Sussex. There is the Gerrard factor too. Graham Potter is clearly liked by his players and an up-and-coming young coach. Might though the opportunity to work with one of the finest midfielders of the past 50 years be a draw for Bissouma? If Gerrard has the coaching ability to impart his knowledge and playing talent onto Bissouma, then it could be the catalyst he needs to take the next step and become one of the best box-to-box midfielders in the world. Ultimately, Bissouma’s decision is most likely to come down to cold, hard cash. Villa have much more of it than Brighton and that makes them an attractive proposition. Football fans tend to have a more romantic view beyond a bank balance, forgetting that most players have no attachment to the club they play for. They are here to take a wage. It is an employer-employee relationship. With Bissouma away at AFCON for the next few weeks, it seems unlikely that his situation – be it a new contract or the Albion reluctantly agreeing to sell – will be sorted until towards the end of the January window, if it all. Bissouma joining Villa is obviously the worst case scenario for how this situation pans out. The best is that he signs a new Brighton deal, respecting what Brighton have done for his career and that they have supported him in every way possible. The most likely? Villa make an offer for Brighton and it sparks a bidding war. The likes of United, City, Liverpool and Arsenal decide they cannot pass up the opportunity to get a player of Bissouma's quality at a cheaper price compared to the fees being bandied about last summer. If Bissouma is to leave, nobody would begrudge him a move to one of the biggest clubs in the world. He has earned it and he deserves it. To lose him to Villa though would be disappointing, but a sign of the times – where cold hard cash (and the 1996 Coca Cola Cup) remains the biggest draw of all. Rich Chinese owners?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Bait. Click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 To be fair why would Brighton sell to a direct rival now? It's in their interests to have a bidding war in the Summer for Bissouma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: To be fair why would Brighton sell to a direct rival now? It's in their interests to have a bidding war in the Summer for Bissouma. Because the "bidding war" would start at £15m with only a year left on his contract. They have a chance to get close to £40m right now (allegedly). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, Steero113 said: To be fair to them though, they won the Sussex Senior Challenge Cup in 1961. I see them in a new light now and hold them in the highest esteem. It’s about time Li Nass and Woo Eden pulled their fingers out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, danceoftheshamen said: Had to laugh very loudly at this spite ridden article in the local Brighton rag regards us being after Bissouma!!! Belittling our club as much as they possibly could by headlining us as "1996 coca-cola cup winners" and intimating our fan base are deluded as to the potential of the club whilst going large on the fact that their sole achievement over us is finishing higher than us in 5 of the last 6 seasons! No mention of anything else prior to that as it would not suit their one eyed agenda to try & big up their poxy little club to look on an even keel with us. .... Jokers. They have even set up their local readers with the "the only reason he would possibly go to Villa for is ££££'s" illusion. I throw it back at them Delusion on a MASSIVE scale They are that clued up on the football World that they even called our owners "Chinese" Bunch of muppets CLICKY Here it is... Why losing Yves Bissouma to 1996 Coca Cola Cup winners Aston Villa is not as unlikely as it may sound Those of you who have not heard where the rumour mill is sending him may be surprised by the destination. Over the past year remember, Bissouma has been linked with Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Manchester City, Real Madrid and Paris Saint Germain. So, who are the gossip pages saying is going to be his next club? Aston Villa. Yeah, that Aston Villa. The Aston Villa below Brighton in the Premier League table. Who have finished lower than the Albion in the footballing pyramid for all but one of the past six seasons. And whose fans believe they are one of the greatest clubs in the country still despite their last piece of silverware being the 1996 Coca Cola Cup. It is easy to scoff at the idea of Bissouma moving to Villa. I have just proven that in the previous paragraph. Many Albion supporters have done a passable impression of the Laughing Policeman, guffawing at those pushing their Bissouma to Villa narrative. Why would be go there?! But the worrying, uncomfortable truth is that there is every chance Bissouma could move to Villa, if not in January then in the summer. The Malian is out of contract in June 2023. If no new deal is agreed, then Brighton have only two-and-a-half transfer windows in which to sell before they risk seeing a player who could fetch them tens of millions of pounds walk away for nothing. Brighton fans have put forward many reasons as to why Bissouma to Villa is a non-starter, all of which can be dismissed quite easily. First, the comparisons to the Ben White situation in the summer of 2020. The theory goes that Tony Bloom would not sell White to Leeds United as they were a direct rival. Why then would he sell Bissouma to Villa who are similar? White was under a long-term contract with three years still to run when Leeds came bidding. Brighton had no need to sell no matter what Leeds offered. If Villa come in with an offer of £40 million in January – something they could easily afford thanks to their Jack Grealish windfall and rich Chinese owners - Tony Bloom has a very different decision to make. Bloom faces a difficult choice. If Bissouma has shown no indication of signing a new contract for Brighton, does Bloom extract the maximum he can for Brighton's star player as soon as possible? Or keep him, watch his contract run down and with it the amount a buying club will be willing to pay? Foreign clubs can open talks about a free transfer when a player enters their final six months, so if Real or PSG retain an interest then they could begin negotiations direct with Bissouma this time next year. For a player the Albion might have received £60 million for if a bid had been forthcoming last summer, Bloom will surely not take the latter of those options. Better to get £40 million in the bank now and reinvest that in reinforcements than nothing at all. Say Brighton do accept a bid from Villa. The next argument about him leaving stems from it looking a sideways move. As already noted, the Albion are above Steven Gerrard’s mob in the table. Brighton are also the club who gave Bissouma his chance in English football, turned him from a rough diamond into one of the best defensive midfielders in the Premier League. They have stuck by him through publicised off-the-pitch issues, which may yet be suitably off-putting to potential suitors that none decide to follow up their interest with a firm bid. That adds another layer of complication to the situation. Given all of that, you would hope Bissouma retains some loyalty to Brighton. No doubt Southampton fans felt exactly the same about Danny Ings. The striker had revitalised his career at St Mary's, becoming a regular in the England squad after an injury hit time at Liverpool. Ings thanked them by leaving for Villa Park in a cut-price sale the Saints were pressured to make as he entered the final year of his contract. A familiar story could play out 96 miles along the south coast in Sussex. There is the Gerrard factor too. Graham Potter is clearly liked by his players and an up-and-coming young coach. Might though the opportunity to work with one of the finest midfielders of the past 50 years be a draw for Bissouma? If Gerrard has the coaching ability to impart his knowledge and playing talent onto Bissouma, then it could be the catalyst he needs to take the next step and become one of the best box-to-box midfielders in the world. Ultimately, Bissouma’s decision is most likely to come down to cold, hard cash. Villa have much more of it than Brighton and that makes them an attractive proposition. Football fans tend to have a more romantic view beyond a bank balance, forgetting that most players have no attachment to the club they play for. They are here to take a wage. It is an employer-employee relationship. With Bissouma away at AFCON for the next few weeks, it seems unlikely that his situation – be it a new contract or the Albion reluctantly agreeing to sell – will be sorted until towards the end of the January window, if it all. Bissouma joining Villa is obviously the worst case scenario for how this situation pans out. The best is that he signs a new Brighton deal, respecting what Brighton have done for his career and that they have supported him in every way possible. The most likely? Villa make an offer for Brighton and it sparks a bidding war. The likes of United, City, Liverpool and Arsenal decide they cannot pass up the opportunity to get a player of Bissouma's quality at a cheaper price compared to the fees being bandied about last summer. If Bissouma is to leave, nobody would begrudge him a move to one of the biggest clubs in the world. He has earned it and he deserves it. To lose him to Villa though would be disappointing, but a sign of the times – where cold hard cash (and the 1996 Coca Cola Cup) remains the biggest draw of all. Didn't once dawn on this person that he's currently playing for them, a club with a grand total of 0 trophies in their history. Not even a "Coca Cola Cup". Finishing 15th-17th for the last 4 years is literally the height of their existence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Bloody Chinese, coming over here, stealing our teams... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Brighton, the seagulls. Mate. Arrdee is the biggest thing to come out that sandpit and he’s 4 foot 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Because the "bidding war" would start at £15m with only a year left on his contract. They have a chance to get close to £40m right now (allegedly). If he isn't very good it will start at 15 million yet people tell me he is elite. We got 20 million for Ashley Young 11 years ago before the market exploded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 It's the best time for brighton to sell. They have enough points already to ensure they wont go down and if they keep him any longer he will lose value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: If he isn't very good it will start at 15 million yet people tell me he is elite. We got 20 million for Ashley Young 11 years ago before the market exploded We got £18m for Young and he was fairly elite I think at the time. Would be similar for Bissouma if he runs his contract down. Say BHA get 25 for him, it could be 40 now. Edited January 13, 2022 by Steero113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Steero113 said: We got £18m for Young and he still had 18 months left on his deal when we sold him. Young left in summer 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: Didn't once dawn on this person that he's currently playing for them, a club with a grand total of 0 trophies in their history. Not even a "Coca Cola Cup". Finishing 15th-17th for the last 4 years is literally the height of their existence Yes but they did have that on loan goalkeeper that scored once to save them from the conference. Bissoumas boyhood hero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: Didn't once dawn on this person that he's currently playing for them, a club with a grand total of 0 trophies in their history. Not even a "Coca Cola Cup". Finishing 15th-17th for the last 4 years is literally the height of their existence Good performers in the XG/XGa table though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: Fine whatever. I can't take a club seriously when their big match is versus a team fifty miles up the round due to some managers falling out in the 1970s. Rich Chinese Owners? Do NSWE know about this????? Dissing us as the 1996 Coca Cola Cup winners..... Remind me what Brighton have won again? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 44 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Brighton, the seagulls. Mate. Arrdee is the biggest thing to come out that sandpit and he’s 4 foot 6 Is Tommy Elphick from Brighton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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