Dale Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, a m ole said: In the premier league surely. It must be Conor Hourihane. The one im thinking of vs Newcastle wasn't direct. But basically was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, StewieGriffin said: I genuinely know this because it came up in a chat with mates the other day. Benteke vs QPR in 2015 My god, that is a disgrace. It really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Dale said: The one im thinking of vs Newcastle wasn't direct. But basically was. Yeah someone touched it back to him but he still had to curl it round their wall, had a cracking view of it from upper Trinity. Coutinho was very unlucky not to score one v Brighton last season, their keeper basically saved it on the goalline. Would've thought El Ghazi would've scored a FK at some point given he had a reasonable strike on him from distance and penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 7 hours ago, villa4europe said: We've scored 2 goals direct from corners in 8 games this season but haven't scored a direct free kick in 7 years? As for him... I'm not overly fussed by him, think training to defend set pieces would be more important and we never seem to do that, attacking wise he can cook up anything he likes, the cleverest set piece routine you've ever seen and if the ball in is shit it's all for nothing He is a bit of a scape goat though, he's just a coach, we have a lot of them, we probably need more of them, his significance to the team isn't as high as its made out to be, we do need a set piece coach again I think more for defending, part of it will be scouting too, almost like NFL we should have a guy watching tape of opposition teams and knowing what they're all about and then relaying that info to the players, I don't think that exists in football but it should it's common sense I can’t find the numbers at the minute but I’m sure our goals scored and goals conceded were better before the year we signed him. The main difference was we were doing fancy routines at every set piece. Don’t see him as much now but he was very involved in the sidelines when Dean was in charge and now it makes you wonder what he’s actually doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, IrishVilla10 said: I can’t find the numbers at the minute but I’m sure our goals scored and goals conceded were better before the year we signed him. The main difference was we were doing fancy routines at every set piece. Don’t see him as much now but he was very involved in the sidelines when Dean was in charge and now it makes you wonder what he’s actually doing He’s still v involved on the sidelines, maybe you just haven’t noticed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: He’s still v involved on the sidelines, maybe you just haven’t noticed him. Fair, doing what though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: Fair, doing what though Erm shouting a bit and celebrating a goal with Gerrard from what I’ve seen. Tbf the training ground is where he’s going to be most busy. If he’s having to be front and centre too much on match days I would think they haven’t prepared properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 25, 2022 11 hours ago, villa4europe said: We've scored 2 goals direct from corners in 8 games this season but haven't scored a direct free kick in 7 years? As for him... I'm not overly fussed by him, think training to defend set pieces would be more important and we never seem to do that, attacking wise he can cook up anything he likes, the cleverest set piece routine you've ever seen and if the ball in is shit it's all for nothing He is a bit of a scape goat though, he's just a coach, we have a lot of them, we probably need more of them, his significance to the team isn't as high as its made out to be, we do need a set piece coach again I think more for defending, part of it will be scouting too, almost like NFL we should have a guy watching tape of opposition teams and knowing what they're all about and then relaying that info to the players, I don't think that exists in football but it should it's common sense saw this thread has been bumped so folks are back to the "what does this guy actually do?" argument he's a set piece specialist, but it's not ALL that he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, tomav84 said: saw this thread has been bumped so folks are back to the "what does this guy actually do?" argument he's a set piece specialist, but it's not ALL that he does. He puts the cones out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted September 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 25, 2022 12 hours ago, sidcow said: My god, that is a disgrace. It really is. Another reason why I think Ward Prowse would have been a perfect fit for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 No one really scores free kicks anymore. They all get skied or hit the wall. I’m not really sure what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Another reason why I think Ward Prowse would have been a perfect fit for us. Don't worry he'd either break his leg in the first 10 mins or regress to being some Tonev type character and never hit the target with a free kick again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted September 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: Don't worry he'd either break his leg in the first 10 mins or regress to being some Tonev type character and never hit the target with a free kick again Haha, you are probably right there. Ask Luc Nilis, the most talented player Villa had ever seen. For about 20 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Spoony said: No one really scores free kicks anymore. They all get skied or hit the wall. I’m not really sure what happened. They’ve got to be perfect to go in because the keepers are so much more agile than they used to be. To achieve that perfection the margin for error is very very small. You’ve got to get it over the wall and down under the crossbar with enough power to beat a keeper who doesn’t have concrete boots on like they did 15 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: They’ve got to be perfect to go in because the keepers are so much more agile than they used to be. To achieve that perfection the margin for error is very very small. You’ve got to get it over the wall and down under the crossbar with enough power to beat a keeper who doesn’t have concrete boots on like they did 15 years ago. Makes sense. It’s why I don’t get too upset when we constantly bollocks our free kicks because there isn’t a single team out there who does anything with them anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) So is that fact about our last FK scored true? I know the Hourihane one VS Newcastle wasn't technically direct but surely he bagged one in The Championship? If the stat is PL only then it's not quite as shocking considering we had three years out of the league. Edited September 25, 2022 by Tom13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tom13 said: So is that fact about our last FK scored true? I know the Hourihane one VS Newcastle wasn't technically direct but surely he bagged one in The Championship? If the stat is PL only then it's not quite as shocking considering we had three years out of the league. He definitely scored against Forsst and Blackburn in the championship, not sure if there were any others though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, djdabush said: He definitely scored against Forsst and Blackburn in the championship, not sure if there were any others though. Just checked, Derby away as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted October 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2022 Didn't realise he was helping Scotland too, well at least he is helping one team improve their set pieces... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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