sidcow Posted August 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2022 11 hours ago, Adman said: We look like conceding from every defensive set piece and look like we could take a thousand attacking ones against an empty net and still miss. Not a fan On 20/08/2022 at 17:05, Junxs said: We look like conceding from every free kick / corner. What is this guys job exactly? lol This is it exactly. My heart is in my mouth everytime we concede a corner. Every team we play seems capable of whipping in wicked crosses straight into the danger area that cause chaos. Everytime we get a set piece it seems overly complicated/elaborate or the delivery is completely substandard. And when was the last time we actually scored a direct free kick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2022 It's been going on for so long as well. There were many moans and calls for him to go a year ago but then we scored that complicated goal with 3 headers and he was back to being a genius for a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 World class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Quote Aston Villa's Douglas Luiz scored directly from a corner in the 4-1 Carabao Cup victory at Bolton on Tuesday night. They have claimed on Twitter today it was a well worked training ground move. Sky Sports News has looked at it in more detail and discovered they have a point! Villa boss Steven Gerrard has a forward-thinking approach to set pieces having previously appointed Austin MacPhee as a specialist coach. 1. Look at the detail in the movement. In the training ground video goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez is being blocked by the same players blocking Bolton keeper Joel Dixon in the match footage 2. The roles of Danny Ings and Ollie Watkins play out exactly as planned. Ings starts on the edge of the six-yard box and makes a dart towards the front post. Watkins, with starting position on the penalty spot, heads for the back post. It keeps their markers occupied while also putting themselves in good attacking positions should Douglas Luiz not get the precision he's aiming for. 3. In the training video red mannequins represent the exact positions of Bolton's zonal players. 4. This was worked on multiple times in Villa's training session. Look at the number of footballs beside Douglas Luiz. The repetitive nature of the drill and excellent technical ability of the Brazilian was key to it coming off in the game. 5. It was important the ball was positioned on the outside of the corner quadrant and not the inside. The intention was to shoot so the inside would have made it much more difficult. 6. Villa is one of a select number of European Clubs which uses the TrackMan ball tracking technology to measure speed, spin and gravitational force when working on set pieces. https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/11095/12507208/football-news-and-latest-updates-column?postid=4345221#liveblog-body I've got no idea what the technology mentioned in point 6 is, but it sounds interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 If we are spending a significant part of training trying to score from corners I think we've just discovered the problem. The lunatics are running the ayslum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tom13 said: https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/11095/12507208/football-news-and-latest-updates-column?postid=4345221#liveblog-body I've got no idea what the technology mentioned in point 6 is, but it sounds interesting. It's used at golf ranges that have ball tracking equipment to give you details about your shot. 15 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: If we are spending a significant part of training trying to score from corners I think we've just discovered the problem. The lunatics are running the ayslum. Because teams famously don't use corners as goal scoring opportunities 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Just now, MessiWillSignForVilla said: It's used at golf ranges that have ball tracking equipment to give you details about your shot. Because teams famously don't use corners as goal scoring opportunities I'm all for set piece coaching and I am all for specialist coaching. Anything to get marginal gains...but do you really think any other PL team is running set piece drills to score from corners? No, I'm going full Danny Murphy on this one. Practicing scoring direct from corners is self indulgent nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, Tom13 said: https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/11095/12507208/football-news-and-latest-updates-column?postid=4345221#liveblog-body I've got no idea what the technology mentioned in point 6 is, but it sounds interesting. Why is SG being given credit for bringing in MacPhee? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Just now, a-k said: Why is SG being given credit for bringing in MacPhee? Very good point! Missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, a-k said: Why is SG being given credit for bringing in MacPhee? They know SG was tapped up well before Smith got sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted August 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) Basically a 12th man last night. Would’ve lost without him. Doug could’ve been replaced by anyone else on the pitch for the corner and we still would’ve scored such was the training involved. Edited August 24, 2022 by fightoffyour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 This guy doesn't get the praise he deserves. We're only a threat from set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 minute ago, lexicon said: This guy doesn't get the praise he deserves. We're only a threat from set pieces. We shouldn't need a set piece coach. the players and the coaches should know how to train in set pieces. None of the decent managers have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, lexicon said: This guy doesn't get the praise he deserves. We're only a threat from set pieces. He doesn’t deserve credit when the main threat is Luiz shooting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, a m ole said: He doesn’t deserve credit when the main threat is Luiz shooting He's the set piece coach - that's a set piece... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: We shouldn't need a set piece coach. the players and the coaches should know how to train in set pieces. None of the decent managers have them. Spoken like a true footballing dinosaur Don't Liverpool have a throw in coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 The only person at the club id sack before Gerrard, stealing a living at our club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 On 22/08/2022 at 08:12, sidcow said: And when was the last time we actually scored a direct free kick? I genuinely know this because it came up in a chat with mates the other day. Benteke vs QPR in 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, StewieGriffin said: I genuinely know this because it came up in a chat with mates the other day. Benteke vs QPR in 2015 In the premier league surely. It must be Conor Hourihane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 We've scored 2 goals direct from corners in 8 games this season but haven't scored a direct free kick in 7 years? As for him... I'm not overly fussed by him, think training to defend set pieces would be more important and we never seem to do that, attacking wise he can cook up anything he likes, the cleverest set piece routine you've ever seen and if the ball in is shit it's all for nothing He is a bit of a scape goat though, he's just a coach, we have a lot of them, we probably need more of them, his significance to the team isn't as high as its made out to be, we do need a set piece coach again I think more for defending, part of it will be scouting too, almost like NFL we should have a guy watching tape of opposition teams and knowing what they're all about and then relaying that info to the players, I don't think that exists in football but it should it's common sense 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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