JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Never seen him play, but the noises are very positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 8 hours ago, lexicon said: He's even more of 'not a DM' than Luiz, though. It's not the right switch. I thought he was a DM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 13 hours ago, lexicon said: He's even more of 'not a DM' than Luiz, though. It's not the right switch. From the first post in this thread... Harrison said: “Tim is an athletic midfielder who is technically very good. “He has the ability to play as a holding midfielder or a box-to-box midfielder, who can contribute in both penalty areas. “Tim has a lot of potential and we look forward to seeing him develop over the next few years.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 People are going to go crazy when they see he isn't taller than Luiz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Zatman said: People are going to go crazy when they see he isn't taller than Luiz Hes at least 5 ft 9 . Big enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Lerner's Driver said: From the first post in this thread... Harrison said: “Tim is an athletic midfielder who is technically very good. “He has the ability to play as a holding midfielder or a box-to-box midfielder, who can contribute in both penalty areas. “Tim has a lot of potential and we look forward to seeing him develop over the next few years.” Well... yeah, not a DM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 It'll be a horrible experience for him having to come and be the only player left in the middle of the pitch. That's not something I can imagine going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 15, 2022 Author Share Posted February 15, 2022 For us he plays as a DM with Lindley, out of the two of them he has more license to go forward, he puts in a lot of tackles, but doesn't play as an out and out DM as such, kind of a box to box midfielder, which is also how he played for Albion last season when he played in a two man defensive midfield alongside Teixeira, so he's not used to playing as the sole DM. If he can translate his U23 performances to first team level he'd probably be good in the role that Ramsey and McGInn play, probably wouldn't be as dangerous in the final third as those two, but he hass other qualities, including being an excellent passer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 7 hours ago, useless said: For us he plays as a DM with Lindley, out of the two of them he has more license to go forward, he puts in a lot of tackles, but doesn't play as an out and out DM as such, kind of a box to box midfielder, which is also how he played for Albion last season when he played in a two man defensive midfield alongside Teixeira, so he's not used to playing as the sole DM. If he can translate his U23 performances to first team level he'd probably be good in the role that Ramsey and McGInn play, probably wouldn't be as dangerous in the final third as those two, but he hass other qualities, including being an excellent passer. He plays as a CM - holding or box-to-box. He doesn't play as a DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 15, 2022 Author Share Posted February 15, 2022 An holding midfielder is a DM, the terms are interchangeable, a 'DM' doesn't have to be a latter day Jedinek type that just sits in from of the defence like an extra defender making challenges, these days they have other attributes as well. As I said 'he puts in a lot of tackles, but doesn't play as an out and out DM as such, kind of a box to box midfielder'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 44 minutes ago, useless said: An holding midfielder is a DM, the terms are interchangeable, a 'DM' doesn't have to be a latter day Jedinek type that just sits in from of the defence like an extra defender making challenges, these days they have other attributes as well. As I said 'he puts in a lot of tackles, but doesn't play as an out and out DM as such, kind of a box to box midfielder'. Nah it's not, it's a CM that 'holds' in the centre of the pitch - it's an all-round role rather than explicitly defensive or attacking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, lexicon said: Nah it's not, it's a CM that 'holds' in the centre of the pitch - it's an all-round role rather than explicitly defensive or attacking. Whilst I agree with you on Tim being a CM rather than a DM you are totally wrong with your interpretation of the holding role. A holding midfielder is probably the purest form of a defensive midfielder. A player in this role holds his position and stays close to the team's defence, while other midfielders move forward to attack. A holding midfielder will try to protect the own goal by disrupting the opponents' attacking moves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 15, 2022 Author Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) A CM is basically box-to-box mdifielder, they aren't 'holding midfielders' because they don't 'hold' their position whereas DMs are sometimes called holding midfielders because they 'hold' their position in front of the defence. Iroegbunham can play both positions as stated by Mark Harrison when we signed and he's since played both positions for our U23s. Edited February 16, 2022 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: Whilst I agree with you on Tim being a CM rather than a DM you are totally wrong with your interpretation of the holding role. A holding midfielder is probably the purest form of a defensive midfielder. A player in this role holds his position and stays close to the team's defence, while other midfielders move forward to attack. A holding midfielder will try to protect the own goal by disrupting the opponents' attacking moves Nah, that's an anchor or a half-back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, lexicon said: Nah, that's an anchor or a half-back. Nope, a holding midfielder is any player that sits in front of a back 4. Edited February 15, 2022 by gwi1890 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Risso Posted February 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2022 *Shoots self in face* 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Risso said: *Shoots self in face* Should clarify, I don't like the idea of you shooting yourself in the face, but I do like the sentiment having read the previous page worth of posts... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 4 hours ago, lexicon said: Nah it's not, it's a CM that 'holds' in the centre of the pitch - it's an all-round role rather than explicitly defensive or attacking. This is not correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Sorry @lexicon, but I have to agree with everyone else and say you’re wrong about your definition of a holding midfielder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 13 hours ago, gwi1890 said: Nope, a holding midfielder is any player that sits in front of a back 4. The clue is in the term 'holding' player. I don't know why some people get so confused by it. It's a form of CDM, whether you call or holding, anchor or anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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