CVByrne Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 03/02/2022 at 15:41, paul514 said: I'm interested in what happens with Bailey when he is back and fully fit.... I wonder if he might become a centre forward? I think he will get time there for sure. I just feel a Bailey, Coutinho, Buendia front three is exciting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) On 10/01/2022 at 08:25, CVByrne said: Do you think Gerrard might add in some tactical flexibility? I feel at times where we control midfield a 4 2 3 1 might best suit our attacking players. A switch where say Ramsey comes off for Bailey Watkins Bailey Coutinho Buendia Luiz McGinn Digne Mings Konsa Cash It could be more a 4 3 2 1 but where the central defensive midfielder swaps for say Coutinho or Buendia so they are more forward looking than defensive. My concern is, with Digne and cash as attacking full backs, who's going to do the defending? That line up is predominantly Offensive. also, I think Ramsey is a permanent fixture now....He is arguably, one of our best players. Edited February 5, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, TRO said: My concern is, with Digne and cash as attacking full backs, who's going to do the defending? That line up is predominantly Offensive. also, I think Ramsey is a permanent fixture now....He is arguably, one of our best players. There's two holding midfielders to sit in front of the last line and protect it. Whether you think McGinn and Luiz are up to the role is a different matter. Certainly not Cambiasso and Motta, nor Xabi and Khedira. For me they could play there though. Edited February 5, 2022 by A'Villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, A'Villan said: There's two holding midfielders to sit in front of the last line and protect it. Whether you think McGinn and Luiz are up to the role is a different matter. Certainly not Cambiasso and Motta, nor Xabi and Khedira. For me they could play there though. Hence my concern, 2 essentially offensive minded players. I guess, we will just have to get by, until the summer. Edited February 5, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, TRO said: Hence my concern, 2 essentially offensive minded players. I guess, we will just have to get by, until the summer. I see both McGinn and Luiz as capable of winning the ball back of their own accord and abilities. That would only be enhanced by tactical development if they were assigned the roles. Could be wrong but I see that duo as doable in the holding roles. I think it may hamper McGinns optimal input given that he is better suited to central midfield and being a threat on the ball as well as winning it in threatening territory, but I think with some better discipline and decision making regards defensive duties, I see him being able to adapt and fulfil the role. Edited February 5, 2022 by A'Villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Just realised something. If we count the cost of Coutinho to purchase in the summer of £33mill we now have a £165 million forward line. £165 million. Mental. We have alot.to thank our owners for thats for sure Watkins 30 Ings 25 Buendia 35 Coutinho 33 Bailey 25 Traore 17 As a grpup that is a scary line up even compared to other prem teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 And then Wesley out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted February 8, 2022 Moderator Share Posted February 8, 2022 9 hours ago, CVByrne said: Interesting video about how the Great 2007 Milan team played with a Christmas Tree formation. I think the goal for Ancelotti was to get the best out of Pirlo and Kaka in the system. But it's important how the midfield three are adaptable. I see Coutinho like our Kaka and Buendia like our Seedorf . I think the midfield has to be different these days due to how much counter pressing teams do, and how quickly teams attack in transition. We are vulnerable without a CDM "destroyer" type player attuned to breaking up opposition attacks in transition. That's an excellent evaluation of AC Milan and I think it's very similar to the way we're set up and want to play. It's interesting to see the way they did it without a big central defensive midfield destroyer and I do wonder if the urgency the fans have to bring one in is matched by the management team. I think if we do go for one, they'll want one that can play first and foremost. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 39 minutes ago, TRO said: who is the kid? 37 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Tommi O'Reilly isnt it? I thought it was Kerr Smith tbh, it might be T.O'R. either way he's a handsome talented lucky git Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Phil Silvers said: I thought it was Kerr Smith tbh, it might be T.O'R. either way he's a handsome talented lucky git defo not Kerr Smith, Kerr is frickin huge and chunky for a 17yr old, looks like a fully grown man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, CVByrne said: Interesting video about how the Great 2007 Milan team played with a Christmas Tree formation. I think the goal for Ancelotti was to get the best out of Pirlo and Kaka in the system. But it's important how the midfield three are adaptable. I see Coutinho like our Kaka and Buendia like our Seedorf . I think the midfield has to be different these days due to how much counter pressing teams do, and how quickly teams attack in transition. We are vulnerable without a CDM "destroyer" type player attuned to breaking up opposition attacks in transition. Christmas tree they started using before Kaka joined in 2002 as they signed Rivaldo and also had Pirlo, Seedorf and Rui Costa in the squad. Shevchenko wasnt fully fit so had just one fit senior striker It didnt work initially as Rivaldo was a flop Edited February 8, 2022 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Why didn't Luiz get time off like McGinn and Mings? He had the busiest summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 This is really not great looking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: This is really not great looking Man City's is pretty funny though. Speaks for itself. Edited February 8, 2022 by ciggiesnbeer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted February 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 8, 2022 I'd imagine Gerrard is shooting for something like the Arse, ManU, Spurs lobster map based on his preference to use the fullbacks to attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Zatman said: This is really not great looking Not surprised considering the horrendous start to the season. Gerrard has had barely any time to instill his style thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, jim said: Not surprised considering the horrendous start to the season. Gerrard has had barely any time to instill his style thus far. From Sunday he will have managed us for more league games this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Zatman said: From Sunday he will have managed us for more league games this season And hopefully he would have won more of them than lost. **** the stupid graphics. Edited February 8, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: And hopefully he would have won more of them than lost. **** the stupid graphics. Thats the hope, we really should be getting at least 12 points from the next 5, 15 if they add one of the rearranged games in that period. We are playing the weak teams up until West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: Thats the hope, we really should be getting at least 12 points from the next 5, 15 if they add one of the rearranged games in that period. We are playing the weak teams up until West Ham I’d say 10 would still be a decent return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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