alreadyexists Posted August 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2022 On 23/08/2022 at 23:03, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: How about? I think this would work well dude, and in reality I don’t think Luiz and Kamara would sit so solidly together, one would naturally drop when the other when forward and pivot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Keyblade said: Really stretching the term international there. Gabby, N'Zogbia and Cissokho's most recent caps for example (6 between them by the way) were 5 years before that. By contrast, Lucas Digne and Boubacar Kamara both started in France's most recent competitive game. That was the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 11 hours ago, pacbuddies said: Martinez - Argentinian international Cash - Polish international Digne - French international Mings - English international Carlos - Brazilian international Kamara - French international Luiz - Brazilian international McGinn - Scottish international Coutinho - Brazilian international Buendia - Argentinian international Bailey - Jamaican international Ings - English international Watkins - English international Have I missed anyone? Surely any decent manager could get a tune out of that lot! Don't forget El Ghazi - 2 Caps for Holland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) It’s obvious to most of us, but SG needs to keep Luiz in the team… at least until a new midfielder is signed (a proper upgrade)… It’s another reason why there is so much frustration with SG, he doesn’t seem to try rectifying anything or learn from mistakes, just keeps repeating them. He doesn’t make the right decisions and we keep shooting ourselves in the foot… Why he persists with both JJ and McGinn in the league, when we are playing so poorly and so poor in possession is beyond some of us… And why he appointed McGinn as captain too Edited August 25, 2022 by Jas10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jas10 said: It’s obvious to most of us, but SG needs to keep Luiz in the team… at least until a new midfielder is signed (a proper upgrade)… It’s another reason why there is so much frustration with SG, he doesn’t seem to try rectifying anything or learn from mistakes, just keeps repeating them. He doesn’t make the right decisions and we keep shooting ourselves in the foot… Why he persists with both JJ and McGinn in the league, when we are playing so poorly and so poor in possession is beyond some of us… And why he appointed McGinn as captain too Saw an interesting suggestion by Pete from Holy Trinity today. Kamara | Luiz " Double Pivot " EMI as more advanced CM/ACM and as McGinn " must play" have him more advanced on the Left and Bailey on the right. * He did add the note that it won't happen though.. lol Edited August 25, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 8 hours ago, alreadyexists said: I think lots of teams use their fullbacks to attack and for width… Gerrard hasn’t invented this style of attacking. Other teams use the FBs to provide width/space for their attacking players. We seem to do the opposite. Tucking in our inside forwards so our FBs have space to create. Puts an insane amount of pressure on our good but not great FBs to defend but also be the fulcrum of attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Totally hypothetical and will never happen, but in the event we signed Diallo we could end up having a group that could really effectively play a 3-4-2-1. Martinez Chambers-Mings-Diallo Cash-Luiz-Kamara-Digne Bailey-Buendia Watkins Or with Coutinho, Ings or whoever you'd want replacing in there. You've got Chambers who with his experience of also playing right back would probably be suited to it, Mings and Diallo could likely play either the left or central role for similar reasons and means they'd both be able to play rather than in a 4 at the back where you don't really see two left footers. It allows us to play with such high full backs without completely sacrificing any kind of cover for them etc. I think the style Gerrard tries to implement suits that shape so much better but for some reason it's being shoe-horned into the current formation(s) and often looking a mess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 According to an article I've just read Villa ran less than any Premier league team last season, and although we've only played three matches we are currently the team that has run the least collective kilometres per game this season .... Is this down to the way we set up or does it highlight a lack of fitness or effort? On the plus side it does appear that our pressing has improved, and our high turnovers are fractionally better. This corresponds with our higher possession stats so far this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: According to an article I've just read Villa ran less than any Premier league team last season, and although we've only played three matches we are currently the team that has run the least collective kilometres per game this season .... Is this down to the way we set up or does it highlight a lack of fitness or effort? On the plus side it does appear that our pressing has improved, and our high turnovers are fractionally better. This corresponds with our higher possession stats so far this season. Any chance you could link the article mate? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: According to an article I've just read Villa ran less than any Premier league team last season, and although we've only played three matches we are currently the team that has run the least collective kilometres per game this season .... Is this down to the way we set up or does it highlight a lack of fitness or effort? On the plus side it does appear that our pressing has improved, and our high turnovers are fractionally better. This corresponds with our higher possession stats so far this season. I’d like to see it split between when it possession and when not - I’d hypothesise that our movement and urgency when on the ball is what’s causing it, which is a set up thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, IrishVilla10 said: Any chance you could link the article mate? Cheers A few years back I tried linking an article and got my wrist smacked by the Mods because I did it wrong. (I'm not good at tech, lol). The article is on Sky football and is written by a data and analysis guy Adam Smith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: According to an article I've just read Villa ran less than any Premier league team last season, and although we've only played three matches we are currently the team that has run the least collective kilometres per game this season .... Is this down to the way we set up or does it highlight a lack of fitness or effort? On the plus side it does appear that our pressing has improved, and our high turnovers are fractionally better. This corresponds with our higher possession stats so far this season. Who were the five teams that ran the least? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Bailey, Buendia and Sanson all looking sharp in training. Give them all a start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Surprise surprise, nothing to do with West Ham being big and strong, as we controlled the game. Lost tactically as is almost always the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 We have no tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) Players just don't believe in this system imo. Cash and Digne have to be marathon runners. They're decent international full backs but certainly don't have the quality of Trent or Robertson when in final third if Gerrard is genuinely basing this on Liverpool. I can see it similar to last season, we sack him, new guy comes in and plays 4-2-3-1 and players happier with that win 3 of first 4 games. Get the next two out of the way and hopefully that happens otherwise the league position is going to look terrible, could very easily be bottom soon. We're so boring to watch, played o.k for first 20-25 minutes and rest of game was genuinely coma inducing. Edited August 28, 2022 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 We’ve got some very good players but we’ve no idea how to use them to make a cohesive team. It’s got to change now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Whats the point of giving Archer a couple of minutes at the end. Should have had 30 effin minutes at least! As for Luiz getting subbed jeez. How SGs mind works is an absolute mystery. Giving captaincy to McGinn looking like a huge error as now apparently undroppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Someone post the average positions so I can get a good laugh in. My guess is no one in the middle of the pitch besides Douglas and Kamara. Everybody else crammed to either touchline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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