Mantis Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Completely rotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Its bull. Penalty given after half time whistle should be 'completed' when the ball is touched again by anyone other than the goalkeeper. Goal shouldn't have stood, but ref made some lies up to add time on to not have to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 The half hadn’t ended. The ref blew his whistle to stop the game for the VAR check and not for halftime. Not quite sure why we played 2 minutes extra injury time but he didn’t blow for half time. Wasn’t a penalty for me though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyvilla Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 33 minutes ago, tom_avfc said: The half hadn’t ended. The ref blew his whistle to stop the game for the VAR check and not for halftime. Not quite sure why we played 2 minutes extra injury time but he didn’t blow for half time. Wasn’t a penalty for me though. Can the ref blow the whistle for a var check? I thought it had to be when the ball goes out , im pretty certain it must have been for half time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, mattyvilla said: Can the ref blow the whistle for a var check? I thought it had to be when the ball goes out , im pretty certain it must have been for half time My understanding is and how it should be is that VAR check everything, he's watching the whole game, he reviews footage that we don't see, when he thinks he's seen something he radios in "you might want to check that" and then the ref goes and checks it How VAR worked tonight imo was correct, I just don't agree with the decision And its not cleared up any grey area, it's still debatable so what's the point of it? There is no "correct" decision with that tackle and no consistency either, we don't win that penalty in front of the kop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, villa4europe said: My understanding is and how it should be is that VAR check everything, he's watching the whole game, he reviews footage that we don't see, when he thinks he's seen something he radios in "you might want to check that" and then the ref goes and checks it How VAR worked tonight imo was correct, I just don't agree with the decision And its not cleared up any grey area, it's still debatable so what's the point of it? There is no "correct" decision with that tackle and no consistency either, we don't win that penalty in front of the kop The ref mouthed "he won the ball" to the Arsenal player appealing immediately after the challenge. That was the refs take when right in front of the incident. He's then shown footage of the incident from an angle miles away and changes his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, turvontour said: The ref mouthed "he won the ball" to the Arsenal player appealing immediately after the challenge. That was the refs take when right in front of the incident. He's then shown footage of the incident from an angle miles away and changes his mind. The poor thing there then is still the fact that he did win the ball And i don't think he kicked through him to get it either, I think he wrapped his toe around and got it Still think that the way VAR was used was correct though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 22, 2021 Author Share Posted October 22, 2021 It's not clear and obvious, why is Michael Oliver getting involved? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: It's not clear and obvious, why is Michael Oliver getting involved? Because "clear and obvious" is a wording that PGMOL wishes had never been uttered It should be filed alongside last man and won the ball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, villa4europe said: The poor thing there then is still the fact that he did win the ball And i don't think he kicked through him to get it either, I think he wrapped his toe around and got it Still think that the way VAR was used was correct though It absolutely wasnt as clear cut as the commentary team were making out. I get that if you go through the back of a player then it's a pen. But if the players doing the splits you can obviously kick through to the ball. The arsenal player is clever and lunges towards Targett playing the ball. I suppose it's only what Grealish used to do for us. Annoying though that the refs take was that it was fine when 2 yards away from it. He wasnt shown anything different on the monitor to what he saw live. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 If a defender goes to clear a ball and the attacker, who has no intention of playing the ball, purposely sticks his foot in the way of the defender so that he gets clipped, is it a foul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted October 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, a-k said: If a defender goes to clear a ball and the attacker, who has no intention of playing the ball, purposely sticks his foot in the way of the defender so that he gets clipped, is it a foul? Depends on which teams are involved. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, a-k said: If a defender goes to clear a ball and the attacker, who has no intention of playing the ball, purposely sticks his foot in the way of the defender so that he gets clipped, is it a foul? Yes... He can't kick through the other player But that's not what I think target has done, I think he's got his foot around and his toe on the ball, the contact comes after not before so it shouldn't be a foul I also think that if lacazette wants to stay up he can, he has the ability to plant either foot in the ground and stay up but he magically buckles instead, even tries to kick his left foot out to sell it, the fall does not correlate to the contact, its a dive 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Yes... He can't kick through the other player But that's not what I think target has done, I think he's got his foot around and his toe on the ball, the contact comes after not before so it shouldn't be a foul I also think that if lacazette wants to stay up he can, he has the ability to plant either foot in the ground and stay up but he magically buckles instead, even tries to kick his left foot out to sell it, the fall does not correlate to the contact, its a dive Let me put it this way...if Aubameyang sticks his boot out and is hit by Emi on the follow through rather than just blocking the kick, is it a foul on Emi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, a-k said: Let me put it this way...if Aubameyang sticks his boot out and is hit by Emi on the follow through rather than just blocking the kick, is it a foul on Emi? On the follow through? No, not as long as there's enough contact on the ball to take it away from him, emi kicks the ball 1m away and then takes out the man stopping him getting it then it's a foul If auba runs across him and emi kicks auba rather than the ball then of course it's a foul, regardless of whether or not auba ever touches the ball, same if emi kicks the ball through him, kicks the man first then it's a foul The questions last night are did Targett get the ball? Did Targett take the man before he took the ball? The answers are no to both of them for me The inconsistency is if he takes the lot, the Burnley tackle, takes the man the ball his virginity cleans the lot out, that they're getting wrong imo and should be a foul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 14 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: It's not clear and obvious, why is Michael Oliver getting involved? He is a shit referee that is why. One of the worst about or he just hates Villa Ill give him the benefit of doubt and just say he is crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Anthony Taylor imo is one of, if not the worst refs in the PL. Not saying that about the red card (because i think it was) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Villaphan04 said: Anthony Taylor imo is one of, if not the worst refs in the PL. Not saying that about the red card (because i think it was) Mike Dean says hi! let’s face it, none of them are any good nowadays really… Edited October 24, 2021 by theboyangel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Villaphan04 said: Anthony Taylor imo is one of, if not the worst refs in the PL. Not saying that about the red card (because i think it was) Taylor has some extra credit though with how well he handled the Eriksen situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 26, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2021 The correct answer to "Who is the worst ref in the Premier League?" is Kevin Friend 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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