fightoffyour Posted October 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2021 How does Konsa get a red and England captain Harry Maguire doesn’t? I appreciate it’s not the same ref (actually I’m just guessing here, it could’ve been), but one is at the width of the box and the other is in the D. Shocking inconsistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Nakamba was also off the pitch for the 3rd goal and not allowed back on. seems to have gone unnoticed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 30 minutes ago, Zatman said: Nakamba was also off the pitch for the 3rd goal and not allowed back on. seems to have gone unnoticed Smith mentioned it. Massively backwards that they got an advantage from committing a borderline red card challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: Smith mentioned it. Massively backwards that they got an advantage from committing a borderline red card challenge. We deserved to lose - it’s just that the score line wasn’t reflective when such awful officiating gifts them such advantages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 This wasnt even referred by VAR last year., well it was, but only to disallow the goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I'd want a red if it happened down the other end for Konsa. He's absolutely on goal without that challenge. Hause's looks bad in slowmo but it's incidental contact as he makes the tackle, I don't think you can argue it's deliberate enough to send him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 because ive never seen it before and because it would have been the mother of all "typical **** villa" the thought did cross my mind that it would be hilarious if both if them had been sent off... part of me think if you're going to lose and be pissed off at least let something mind blowingly football is bullshit daft happen would be talked about for a long time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I genuinely thought there were two red cards in that incident. I'm not sure how a referee can look at Hause forearm smashing a guy in the face and not think its a red card. Its the sort of challenge that if it happened to us we'd be screaming for the red card and when the VAR check was going on I was pretty sure it would get upgraded to the red. Konsa was unlucky but the guy is through on goal and once a foul is given there's no way that its not a red card. To be honest for a referee to give that foul and not send the player off is pretty poor as well. I thought that he got the bookings involved in the challenge on Nakamba right as well to be honest (although McGinn was unfortunate) as well as the stupid melee afterwards. The annoying thing about that decision is that he should have played the advantage as we were on a dangerous break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Can someone explain how this is given as a pen? If it is for a high boot, shouldn't it be an indirect FK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, a-k said: Can someone explain how this is given as a pen? If it is for a high boot, shouldn't it be an indirect FK? All i can think is he led with the hand going for the header and was no VAR. No indication he even touched it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 FIFA are investigating to replay South Africa vs Ghana due to poor refereeing. This could open a huge can of worms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Zatman said: All i can think is he led with the hand going for the header and was no VAR. No indication he even touched it VAR looked at it for what felt like 5 minutes. Was working from home so I had the game on in the background because why not 6 hours ago, Zatman said: FIFA are investigating to replay South Africa vs Ghana due to poor refereeing. This could open a huge can of worms I think South Africa - Senegal played a replay during the 2018 qualifiers due to referee match manipulation Edited November 17, 2021 by a-k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 Another week, another week of being gaslighted by both PGMOL and the media that 'the rule is the rule' about one hand on the ball and the ball on the ground. Irregardless Schmeichel doesn't have control. And if the ref sees it live and doesn't see a foul then why the **** is VAR getting involved?? Clear and obvious or stop using it altogether. We are constantly on the end of these ridiculous decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 25 fouls by Leicester and just one booking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: And if the ref sees it live and doesn't see a foul then why the **** is VAR getting involved?? I can't agree wiuth this. Sometimes a ref will only half see something, or they'll look at something and what they saw isn't the reality - humans are genuinely quite bad at perception and it's really easy for our brain to trick us when we're looking at something and not paying attention to something else. Having the video there and double checking is absolutely fine, in my book - I still think the dynamic of sending the ref over to see a screen as an act of authority theatre is absolutely ridiculous though. The biggest issue to come out of today, in my book, is showing still-frames or very slow motion, which we've known for years drastically changes the p[erception of what happened. Multiple angles, fine, but they should see it in real time. I can absolutely see how the ball seemed "under control" from a still image, but anybody who thinks that was under control in real time shouldn't be involved in the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 21 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Another week, another week of being gaslighted by both PGMOL and the media that 'the rule is the rule' about one hand on the ball and the ball on the ground. Irregardless Schmeichel doesn't have control. And if the ref sees it live and doesn't see a foul then why the **** is VAR getting involved?? Clear and obvious or stop using it altogether. We are constantly on the end of these ridiculous decisions. Sky are at least talking about the second part of that rule now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said: Sky are at least talking about the second part of that rule now Yep so based on that it should have been a goal. Surprise surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Another week where PGMOL wishes they never uttered the words "clear and obvious" It means nothing, they check everything, Ramseys was a goal, Watkins wasn't a foul, mcginnsnwas aggressive but not a foul, they had some ridiculous yellow cards not given and the cherry on the top was they checked Buendias goal when it was blatantly onside Terrible all round 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I can't agree wiuth this. Sometimes a ref will only half see something, or they'll look at something and what they saw isn't the reality - humans are genuinely quite bad at perception and it's really easy for our brain to trick us when we're looking at something and not paying attention to something else. Having the video there and double checking is absolutely fine, in my book - I still think the dynamic of sending the ref over to see a screen as an act of authority theatre is absolutely ridiculous though. The biggest issue to come out of today, in my book, is showing still-frames or very slow motion, which we've known for years drastically changes the p[erception of what happened. Multiple angles, fine, but they should see it in real time. I can absolutely see how the ball seemed "under control" from a still image, but anybody who thinks that was under control in real time shouldn't be involved in the game. My point is, and I guess I didn't make it very clear, is that if it's clear and obvious if the ref doesn't see it then VAR should be involved. But cases like this where the ref clearly sees it and says no foul, why is VAR involved? Also they are wrong based on rule 12 so... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 VAR is involved with everything Clear and obvious is jargon and a myth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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