est1874 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 11/04/2024 at 14:37, sne said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/apr/11/premier-league-to-use-semi-automated-offside-speed-up-var-calls#:~:text=Semi-automated offside technology was,shown to fans in stadiums. Great. Can we follow this up with getting rid of completely redundant and useless Linesmen/Linespeople now please? They're making a mockery of the whole thing by standing there with their flags down for 40 seconds waiting for players to gas themselves or potentially get injured, then they flag when the ball goes dead. If technology can call offsides automatically then get rid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted April 17 Popular Post Share Posted April 17 13 minutes ago, est1874 said: Great. Can we follow this up with getting rid of completely redundant and useless Linesmen/Linespeople now please? They're making a mockery of the whole thing by standing there with their flags down for 40 seconds waiting for players to gas themselves or potentially get injured, then they flag when the ball goes dead. If technology can call offsides automatically then get rid. no they're still needed to give throw ins the wrong way 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) yeah, once the center ref makes the foul call it has to be a red. It's DOGSO and even if it's in the box (which it isn't), he doesn't make a play for the ball. Edited April 18 by Villaphan04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 18 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18 23 hours ago, bobzy said: For me, it's a soft foul. I'm not sure he really impedes the attacker that much - he's absolutely looking to go to ground... ...but... if you're giving it as a foul, a red card is then probably the correct decision. I think it arguably could have been a penalty as well. The foul certainly carries on into the box, although I can't even remember what the rule is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 59 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I think it arguably could have been a penalty as well. The foul certainly carries on into the box, although I can't even remember what the rule is now. I agree with villaphan if it was a penalty there's a good argument that it's not an attempt at playing the ball so there is no double jeopardy and it would be a penalty and still a red card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 18 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: I agree with villaphan if it was a penalty there's a good argument that it's not an attempt at playing the ball so there is no double jeopardy and it would be a penalty and still a red card Yeah agreed. I was more referencing that I didn't know if it was still the rule that if the foul carries on into the box it's a penalty. Or is it done on the initial contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 5 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Yeah agreed. I was more referencing that I didn't know if it was still the rule that if the foul carries on into the box it's a penalty. Or is it done on the initial contact It's still the former, it's a penalty if the foul carries into the box, except for Utd against Bournemouth at the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 18 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18 19 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: It's still the former, it's a penalty if the foul carries into the box, except for Utd against Bournemouth at the weekend. And Barca in this instance then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, sharkyvilla said: It's still the former, it's a penalty if the foul carries into the box, except for Utd against Bournemouth at the weekend. FWIW, I don't think that foul carried on into the box. The Bournemouth player was caught outside the box and fell into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Diaz booked for asking for a card. Proper ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 The ref in this West Ham game is worse than the one we had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tinker Posted April 21 VT Supporter Share Posted April 21 First tackle by young was a penalty, straight through the back of him, wtf is VAR doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 General refereeing is in the toilet at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) Forest's VAR official Stuart Attwell grew up in Nuneaton, less than 10 miles from the Sky Blues' Arena, which ironically should mean that he is a Coventry City fan, who would not have gifted Man U that ridiculous offside decision... Edited April 21 by Django_Zooms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 21 VT Supporter Share Posted April 21 "If it's offside it's offside", but is this offside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 22 Author Share Posted April 22 The 3rd penalty shout is one of the worst non-calls I've ever seen. VAR or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: The 3rd penalty shout is one of the worst non-calls I've ever seen. VAR or not. I think real time it could absolutely look like Young has won the ball. It pings up in a really odd way so I've got no issue with the referee missing that. How VAR doesn't pick it up; no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Good thread on VAR and offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 22 Author Share Posted April 22 50 minutes ago, bobzy said: I think real time it could absolutely look like Young has won the ball. It pings up in a really odd way so I've got no issue with the referee missing that. How VAR doesn't pick it up; no idea. Agree and disagree. With our implementation they're looking at 2 things. Whether it's a pen on field and whether VAR were correct to get involved. They can basically say the ref got it wrong but VAR also got it right. Refs have to be braver to give the decision, and the protocol has to change so VAR's aren't backed up by 'the independent panel' saying they were right to not get involved. Still don't understand why we aren't sending refs more often to the screen to check. Especially in this 3rd case, where Taylor said 'ball' and the VAR can easily correct him on that and ask him to take another look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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