hippo Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Dave-R said: I hope to god that once he's back we see the player Villa should be having after spending that amount. I do fear that he will be like Wesley though and he's wasted which I hope not. With his speed and the fact we need speed in midfield he could be a player we really need. I hope when he admitted how tough it was to get upto speed with the premier (which is not easy to do admitt a weakness) That Sanson can actually do that and come in and kick some ass. Before his injury he picked up a Yellow didn't he? He showed a willingness to take the ball from an opponent and was getting stuck in so hopefully when he comes back intercepting and ball recovery is his game. Hurry up Sanson and ease don't be a waste like Wesley is so far, I believe if they both apply themselves they can both come out of all this good and wish them luck doing it, I just think Wesley hasn't much time left to impress. Clearly a talented player. But I do wonder if he is robust enough for the PL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, hippo said: Clearly a talented player. But I do wonder if he is robust enough for the PL. Why's that? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Why's that? Because he's foreign, innit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Why's that? I just think he looks a bit lightweight easily bundled off the ball , needing a tad more time to make a pass. Not codemining him just yet. But have to say I'm really not sure at this stage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNortonAVFC Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Did he play in the friendly with Liverpool? Could give a hint as to when he’ll be ready for the prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, JNortonAVFC said: Did he play in the friendly with Liverpool? Could give a hint as to when he’ll be ready for the prem Don't think he did tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Desperate for him to get fit and up to speed--he was a player I used to admire when at Marseille and hopefully he can try to recapture some of that form with us very soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I know I should give the guy a fair chance but all I keep thinking off is our long list of French players who did nothing for use. Berson mark 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Salad Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: I know I should give the guy a fair chance but all I keep thinking off is our long list of French players who did nothing for use. Berson mark 2? Solid point though I, and may totally be in the minority, thought Guilbert was solid enough whenever he played but more than likely will be loaned out/sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I'd say he'll start against Barrow in next weeks EFL Cup and then make the bench for Brentford Luiz / McGinn will play next two Prem home games. Then there's the 2 week gap for international break. Hopefully everyone is fit and form is picked up after the break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 heard reports saying he's over the injury but presume he is only just returning to training, so probably 2-3 weeks away from being involved minimum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, CVByrne said: I'd say he'll start against Barrow in next weeks EFL Cup and then make the bench for Brentford Luiz / McGinn will play next two Prem home games. Then there's the 2 week gap for international break. Hopefully everyone is fit and form is picked up after the break. why the long face? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Happy Birthday to Morgan then. It's a shame with how the 2nd half of last season went for him. I see him as more than being there to provide competition for the first team, I think and hope he can really push to become a first X1'er. I'm sure he got a payrise coming here but to leave Marseille to come to us, and now aged 27, these are his prime years that he's opted to spend here. That's a big decision professionally and he won't want to be classed as a squad player. Who knows what we will do with the rest of the transfer window and the central midfield position but in the meantime we have Sanson hopefully raring to go and chip in. This guy's got a lot to give but we just haven't seen it yet. Handful of appearances and injuries aside, I wouldn't mind seeing a Luiz, McGinn, Sanson trio in the middle and not him just get the nod as a sub or starter in cup games etc. £15 mill is still a lot to us, time to start paying it back sonny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 57 minutes ago, CVByrne said: I'd say he'll start against Barrow in next weeks EFL Cup and then make the bench for Brentford Luiz / McGinn will play next two Prem home games. Then there's the 2 week gap for international break. Hopefully everyone is fit and form is picked up after the break. Who is your third midfielder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, hippo said: I just think he looks a bit lightweight easily bundled off the ball , needing a tad more time to make a pass. Not codemining him just yet. But have to say I'm really not sure at this stage. I also thought he looked a bit weak and fragile, also Dean Smith said that it took some time for him to adjust to the tempo and intensity of the Premier League. He was described as a tough tackler, a warrior, but did look a bit weak in the one on ones. And then he got injured. I have in no way written him off, it can take up to a season for foreign players to adapt. At the same time there are players where you can see the instant impact, like Bailys debut. I see him as a no 8 in a three man midfield, but I hope he can be deployed as a holding midfielder in a two man midfield as well. From what I've seen so far I haven't seen any real upgrade on Hourihane, but still hope that he will be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, hippo said: I just think he looks a bit lightweight easily bundled off the ball , needing a tad more time to make a pass. Not codemining him just yet. But have to say I'm really not sure at this stage. I’m not too worried about the pace of play stuff, it’s a bit cliché to say it now but it happens to every player coming from France. Going back 2 decades, even Viera and Henry struggled initially. Sanson has played less than 300 minutes so no real worries here yet. Shame we didn’t have the opportunity to bed him properly last season as planned, but I imagine he still learned something. I think he’s an exciting addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Who is your third midfielder? Ings, we'll play Watkins Bailey Ings and Buendia as our front 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, CVByrne said: Ings, we'll play Watkins Bailey Ings and Buendia as our front 4 Going to get totally overrun in CM if we do that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Ings, we'll play Watkins Bailey Ings and Buendia as our front 4 That is utterly terrifying and a complete departure from anything he has done before. I can't see it TBH. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: That is utterly terrifying and a complete departure from anything he has done before. I can't see it TBH. Or almost identical to what we've played before with Ings taking the role of Barkley. Look at a touch map of both players from last season before you say it's different. Also take a look at their defensive output, Ings has far higher Pressures, Tackles, Interceptions, Blocks and Clearances than Barkley so we'll get much more defensively with Ings. Also people get too hung up on formations, it's what roles people do in the team and their movement 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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