Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 hours ago, TheAuthority said: Trump is up 8% in Ohio. Many polls had Biden up 5 or 6. Anyone think the Poll companies are taking the **ss ? Their predictions vs actual is not fir for purpose. I hope their services are of a charitable nature. I could have predicted it a lot closer than them I for one am 100% sure of that in recent polling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Why are people talking as if Trump is winning? He’s looking more and more likely to lose, even if it’s closer than what some of us had hoped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 10 hours ago, SuperTed said: I think Trump wins either way sadly. If he wins then obviously he gets his second term, he loses and pushes this narrative of a fraudulent election and I reckon certain red states will reject the democratic authority and proclaim Trump as their leader still. Telling you this is coming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: Anyone think the Poll companies are taking the **ss ? Their predictions vs actual is not fir for purpose. I hope their services are of a charitable nature. I could have predicted it a lot closer than them I for one am 100% sure of that in recent polling. They always seem to miss the population who vote for the madman but keep it to themselves. If they are not going apply any kind of lessons learned then they are pointless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Are any states due imminently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 It's looking increasingly unlikely that Kanye will be able to close the gap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: It's looking increasingly unlikely that Kanye will be able to close the gap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Genie said: Are any states due imminently? North Carolina has 95% counted so will probably be the next to declare. Trump is ahead about 80,000 votes there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Mozzavfc said: North Carolina has 95% counted so will probably be the next to declare. Trump is ahead about 80,000 votes there Any chance Biden takes NC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, SuperTed said: Any chance Biden takes NC? It's so tight there is a good chance for either candidate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) It's scary how the leader of the second largest party in one of the world oldest, and most important democracies is putting votes into question. It reminds me of some madman totalitarian trying to win an election.. Sad state of affairs. Edited November 4, 2020 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, SuperTed said: Any chance Biden takes NC? Very tight, but I’m guessing it just falls for Trump. Depends which districts are yet to report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXD Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, Michelsen said: Why are people talking as if Trump is winning? He’s looking more and more likely to lose, even if it’s closer than what some of us had hoped. On the contrary, it looks like he's about to win https://www.washingtonpost.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, AXD said: On the contrary, it looks like he's about to win https://www.washingtonpost.com/ How? Please explain. Where is he getting the necessary 57 EC votes from? Edited November 4, 2020 by Michelsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 new jersey has legalised cannabis, Oregon has legalised personal quantities of everything...including heroin and coke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 31 minutes ago, villa4europe said: how do you find out all the weird and wonderful local things that have been voted for? That one was via the 538 live-blog (which I think is entering hibernation TBH), so I haven't seen too many reports on ballot initiatives. One other thing I have seen is that (I think three?) states have legalised the use of marijuana recreationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Call in Pennsylvania 6-5000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXD Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Michelsen said: How? Please explain. Where is he getting the necessary 57 EC votes from? the washington post is looking at the current votes counted. the shaded parts of the bar are the states where they are winning, so trump is currently ahead in enough states to win the EC. So as it stands, he would take Wisconsin (10), Michigan (16), Pennsylvania (20), North Caroline (15, but this one is very close atm) and Georgia (16) =77 I am aware that the votes that are still to be counted are the votes by mail, which are more likely to be in favour of Biden (hence Trumps claim to stop counting). But as it stands, Trump is ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, AXD said: the washington post is looking at the current votes counted. the shaded parts of the bar are the states where they are winning, so trump is currently ahead in enough states to win the EC. So as it stands, he would take Wisconsin (10), Michigan (16), Pennsylvania (20), North Caroline (15, but this one is very close atm) and Georgia (16) =77 I am aware that the votes that are still to be counted are the votes by mail, which are more likely to be in favour of Biden (hence Trumps claim to stop counting). But as it stands, Trump is ahead. Sure, but the point is that you don't get prizes for being 'ahead'. 'Ahead' is not a meaningful term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, lapal_fan said: It's a multitude of things isn't it? But this is politics now. Shout loudest, lie the most, distort the smallest thing, talk a lot about nothing. People don't like evidence, or research, they like tweet-length politics, where huge issues are narrowed down into "yes/no" answers, constant headlines with little details. The precedence we're being set here is nothing but worrying. Idiocracy is a real thing which used to be satirical. The polarisation, the "us/them", the anti-unifying nature of Trumps administration is scary, but not scary enough to push people into hiding, it's bringing out the worst, most tribal instincts we have. Politicians using "meme phrases" from videogame origins like "get owned", is worryingly popular. You have women voting for trump because they think biden hugging and kissing kids he meets is "creepy", despite trump doing similar and having the history Jimmy Saville would be proud of. It's like a frat house popularity contest, that middle-aged people are taking part in and actively enjoying. It's also pretty evident that the huge problem for the Dems is gaining traction with the smaller counties with smaller towns - from what I saw, he lost almost all of the town's, but won the cities. I feel now like I did when Boris landslided, when Brexit creeped over the line.. the democrats have failed to persuade the little guy, when they should be the lowest hanging fruit for a slightly more left-leaning choice. Instead, we've got people who don't make much money, who are more likely to get sick, voting for big business protecting, environmentally damaging and health care cutting politics instead - it doesn't make sense. Maybe the air of superiority and condescending nature of the global lefties is too annoying for the everyman. Weird times. You’ve summed it up well here. I always thought we were heading to a state of idocracy, I just didn’t expect it to happen so soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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