Xela Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Public government neither both I lick windows and believe newspapers I have ticked a box but have not read the question don’t know I hate the don't know option on a poll. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 6 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: Of course Surprised Muslims 1) isn't an option 2) the highest tbh Man Woman Samatta VT Berson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53656852 Quote Coronavirus: Is the UK in a better position than we think? The surveillance programme - run by the Office for National Statistics - did suggest they were rising. But there have to be heavy caveats around these findings - they are based on just 24 positive cases among nearly 30,000 people over the course of two weeks. Drawing conclusions from such smaller numbers is fraught with difficulties. The other key source of data - the cases found by testing - shows numbers have started going up. They are now more than 40% higher than they were in the second week of July on a rolling-seven day average. But that masks the fact the number of tests being carried out is increasing and being targeted at areas where infection rates are highest. If you test more, you are likely to find more. So if you look at the percentage of tests that are positive, the rise is marginal once you iron out the daily fluctuations. This is a point made by Prof Carl Heneghan, who heads the centre for evidence-based medicine at Oxford University. He says it is essential to adjust for tests being done and is concerned about what he calls "poor interpretation" of data. Covid cases, he says, simply aren't rising in any meaningful sense. And even if you just look at the raw number of positive tests, it is worth remembering that the figures seen are way way below what was happening during the peak when an estimated 100,000 infections a day were being seen. Finally the BBC picking up on this. Yes there is loads of misinformation being pumped out by the "just the flu" brigade, but there has also been an apparent obsession among TV journalists to paint everything as a neverending Covid disaster train. Cases are now very low. Barely anyone is in hospital with Covid-19 in the UK (a few hundred people). Doom mongers have been saying "jUsT wAiT tWo wEeKs aNd yOu'Ll sEe!" for about 3 months now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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welnik Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 05/08/2020 at 13:56, wazzap24 said: I’m deliberately going out for something to eat on the other days, I’d rather pay double the price to sit in relative comfort than have to deal with a load of divs desperate to save a tenner on a meal out. Maybe you're going to the wrong places. I've not encountered any of the problems you seem to have in the small independent places I've used. But then you will go to KFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted August 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 04/07/2020 at 16:49, welnik said: Get yourself back down to Asda Minworth (I know it's a long way). As you walk into the shop, they are right there in a big box! My Mum brought us an Atari 2600 form there when it was Carffour when she won £1000 on the Villa lotto in 1980. A lot of money back then 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 05/08/2020 at 13:56, wazzap24 said: I’m deliberately going out for something to eat on the other days, I’d rather pay double the price to sit in relative comfort than have to deal with a load of divs desperate to save a tenner on a meal out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post chrisp65 Posted August 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2020 It’s fascinating, the different rules and different adherence levels around the place. I had a meeting in England yesterday, ten of us, I was the only person that turned up with any ppe whatsoever. The meeting was in England, I was the only one not from England and the only one with kit. Never mind masks (which they didn’t have), we couldn’t even go on site, because people didn’t even have boots with them. It’s like people’s brains have melted, they had less ppe than they would have pre covid, because they weren’t sure of the rules. Perhaps I’m a bit weird, but if I don’t know the rules, I’ll either ask, or take everything I could possibly need. Not drive for hours to rock up in a tee shirt, cargo pants and moccasins and express surprise that’s not allowable building site clothing. Then no masks, they don’t know where else I’ve been this week, I don’t know where they’ve been. Where a mask you selfish cretin. We had already been advised the site was a mess and had a severe problem with rats. One guy literally turned up in suede moccasins and no socks. I’m sure that’s the hippest thing he could be wearing right now, looked lovely. Wouldn’t be my choice when visiting a rat infested building site, in the rain, but what do I know. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 The weekly totals of deaths here through July were around 2, 3 or 4 a week. Most days were zeros. First week of August: 18 deaths We had had a plan to start easing people back towards the office on a voluntary basis, in that some people clearly aren’t enjoying work from home. I think that’s just got kicked in to September. Except of course, in September, their kids will be mixing with other kids, and then they’ll be coming in to the office... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wazzap24 Posted August 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2020 5 hours ago, chrisp65 said: It’s fascinating, the different rules and different adherence levels around the place. I had a meeting in England yesterday, ten of us, I was the only person that turned up with any ppe whatsoever. The meeting was in England, I was the only one not from England and the only one with kit. Never mind masks (which they didn’t have), we couldn’t even go on site, because people didn’t even have boots with them. It’s like people’s brains have melted, they had less ppe than they would have pre covid, because they weren’t sure of the rules. Perhaps I’m a bit weird, but if I don’t know the rules, I’ll either ask, or take everything I could possibly need. Not drive for hours to rock up in a tee shirt, cargo pants and moccasins and express surprise that’s not allowable building site clothing. Then no masks, they don’t know where else I’ve been this week, I don’t know where they’ve been. Where a mask you selfish cretin. We had already been advised the site was a mess and had a severe problem with rats. One guy literally turned up in suede moccasins and no socks. I’m sure that’s the hippest thing he could be wearing right now, looked lovely. Wouldn’t be my choice when visiting a rat infested building site, in the rain, but what do I know. New Job? @Stevo985 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vive_La_Villa Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Today’s the first time I went to major stores so wore a Face mask. F**k me I must be out of shape as really struggled to breath. Couldn’t get back outside quick enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Today’s the first time I went to major stores so wore a Face mask. F**k me I must be out of shape as really struggled to breath. Couldn’t get back outside quick enough. Have you got Pre existing health issues? Or were you wearing some sort of very thick face covering? i have to wear a mask, as does everyone else there, all day if I’m in the office. Can’t say I notice much difference, if any, in breathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: Have you got Pre existing health issues? Or were you wearing some sort of very thick face covering? i have to wear a mask, as does everyone else there, all day if I’m in the office. Can’t say I notice much difference, if any, in breathing. I haven’t got any pre existing health issues that I’m aware of. The mask was a standard face mask from Tesco, come to think of it, maybe it was a little too thick and I need to try something lighter. Suprised people are back in the office. I’ve got a feeling my place is wfh for the foreseeable now. Productivity not impacted and sickness at an all time low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I haven’t got any pre existing health issues that I’m aware of. The mask was a standard face mask from Tesco, come to think of it, maybe it was a little too thick and I need to try something lighter. Suprised people are back in the office. I’ve got a feeling my place is wfh for the foreseeable now. Productivity not impacted and sickness at an all time low. Wasn’t a dig by the way. Genuinely interested. To be fair it is VERY hot today which probably doesn’t help. Ive got two types of face masks. Disposable single use ones. The standard surgical type. And a reusable cloth one with filters. The cloth one I do notice it being a bit restrictive in terms of breathing, especially when it’s hot. But nothing ridiculous. I still wear it for 8 hours at the office. Surgical one can’t say I notice a difference with breathing at all. maybe try a lighter surgical one if yours is too uncomfortable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Wasn’t a dig by the way. Genuinely interested. To be fair it is VERY hot today which probably doesn’t help. Ive got two types of face masks. Disposable single use ones. The standard surgical type. And a reusable cloth one with filters. The cloth one I do notice it being a bit restrictive in terms of breathing, especially when it’s hot. But nothing ridiculous. I still wear it for 8 hours at the office. Surgical one can’t say I notice a difference with breathing at all. maybe try a lighter surgical one if yours is too uncomfortable Yeah will have to get some surgical ones I think. Sounds like wearing a face mask will be the new norm so time to get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 10 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Today’s the first time I went to major stores so wore a Face mask. F**k me I must be out of shape as really struggled to breath. Couldn’t get back outside quick enough. Exactly the same as me. Wore a disposable one in the supermarket and couldn't wait to rip it off as soon as I got outside. I was pouring with sweat wearing it. Not helped by being a scorching hot day either no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 11 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Have you got Pre existing health issues? Or were you wearing some sort of very thick face covering? i have to wear a mask, as does everyone else there, all day if I’m in the office. Can’t say I notice much difference, if any, in breathing. Something covering your airways doesn’t affect your breathing in any way shape or form? Come off it man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 8, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Something covering your airways doesn’t affect your breathing in any way shape or form? Come off it man. I didn’t say that. I said I can’t notice it. The disposable surgical masks, You forget you’re wearing them. Like I said the thicker reusable ones can feel a bit restrictive when it’s hot but nothing major. I still wear one for 8 hours at least in the office with no issue. Ive never felt like I am, or seen anyone else, “really struggling to breathe” wearing a mask. Hence my surprise at Vive’s post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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