Wainy316 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 It's America. Wouldn't they just give the organ to the highest bidder? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 26, 2022 Yeah, there is a bit of clickbait here. Lack of vaccine was one of the reasons amongst many but that's the chosen headline. He might also have a number of other conditions which make him unsuitable. "MAN DENIED LIVER BECAUSE OF ALCOHOL ADDITICTION" and also inoperable brain tumour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 No one is looking at the doctors point of view here.If you are the doctor concerned,wouldent you prefer a successful operation compared to a patient that died 3 months after the op ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 9 hours ago, sidcow said: Yeah, there is a bit of clickbait here. Lack of vaccine was one of the reasons amongst many but that's the chosen headline. He might also have a number of other conditions which make him unsuitable. "MAN DENIED LIVER BECAUSE OF ALCOHOL ADDITICTION" and also inoperable brain tumour. Was that headline from the Grauniad? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 27, 2022 This thread had dropped off page one, which probably tells us something. Anyway, watching the item on the evening news about NHS staff who aren't vaccinated and thus may lose their jobs. They interviewed a few refusenik nurses, and I hoped I might be enlightened as to their (to me, unfathomable) reasons. Not one could come up with any argument except 'freedom'. I'm still baffled. Freedom from what? Nobody said "I think it's dangerous" or "It hasn't been tested" or "It's against my religion" - all of which I could understand, even if I thought they were absurd - just that they objected to being told they had to. But there must be literally hundreds of rules and restrictions in their lives that require a similar level of compliance. In the population at large, I can see why it would be inappropriate (and impractical) to make it compulsory. But frontline NHS staff, dealing with vunerable patients? It's a no brainer for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, mjmooney said: This thread had dropped off page one, which probably tells us something. Anyway, watching the item on the evening news about NHS staff who aren't vaccinated and thus may lose their jobs. They interviewed a few refusenik nurses, and I hoped I might be enlightened as to their (to me, unfathomable) reasons. Not one could come up with any argument except 'freedom'. I'm still baffled. Freedom from what? Nobody said "I think it's dangerous" or "It hasn't been tested" or "It's against my religion" - all of which I could understand, even if I thought they were absurd - just that they objected to being told they had to. But there must be literally hundreds of rules and restrictions in their lives that require a similar level of compliance. In the population at large, I can see why it would be inappropriate (and impractical) to make it compulsory. But frontline NHS staff, dealing with vunerable patients? It's a no brainer for me. They've just been brainwashed by Facebook. That's pretty much what it is with most refusers at this point. There really isn't any logical reason left. They've just got so stuck in rabbit holes they can no longer think rationally. It's the vax equivalent of saying "because" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Boomer stare of death in Sainsburys for non masking wearing. Yes it's 9 am on Friday and the crowd is 99.9% oldies and it is Sainsburys policy....but I'm not doing it anymore. I'm jabbed 3 times. I've obeyed every law every lockdown every isolation. I refuse to wear a mask. It is now law. So you can look at me like I'm scum. Look at me like I'm selfish I sacrificed a good chunk of 18 months and did everything for you people. Getting jabbed to the day I literally could. So tut and give me evils. Sure . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Is it that difficult to wear a mask? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jones1328 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Look at me like I'm selfish Probably a good reason for that. Just wear a mask dude, it's literally such a minor inconvenience I don't understand what the issue is. We're still at 95k+ cases a day, why you would not wear a mask to protect yourself and others is beyond me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, jones1328 said: Probably a good reason for that. Just wear a mask dude, it's literally such a minor inconvenience I don't understand what the issue is. We're still at 95k+ cases a day, why you would not wear a mask to protect yourself and others is beyond me. Because I've been doing it for 2 years and I don't want to anymore I want to get on with life and forget it. It's barely news. Cases are high but not going our of control. Deaths are stable. Patients in his hospital stable. Ventilators. Stable. We're all jabbed. Most people getting ill are severely vulnerable or not jabbed. When does it end!?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Look at me like I'm selfish They have some justification for feeling like that whether you like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, rodders0223 said: Because I've been doing it for 2 years and I don't want to anymore I want to get on with life and forget it. It's barely news. Cases are high but not going our of control. Deaths are stable. Patients in his hospital stable. Ventilators. Stable. We're all jabbed. Most people getting ill are severely vulnerable or not jabbed. When does it end!?! Covid agrees with you! You ignore a private company’s policy when you use their facility and you risk as you say their customers 19 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Yes it's 9 am on Friday and the crowd is 99.9% oldies and it is Sainsburys policy....but I'm not doing it anymore. but you don’t want to because… 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 14 hours ago, mjmooney said: This thread had dropped off page one, which probably tells us something. Anyway, watching the item on the evening news about NHS staff who aren't vaccinated and thus may lose their jobs. They interviewed a few refusenik nurses, and I hoped I might be enlightened as to their (to me, unfathomable) reasons. Not one could come up with any argument except 'freedom'. I'm still baffled. Freedom from what? Nobody said "I think it's dangerous" or "It hasn't been tested" or "It's against my religion" - all of which I could understand, even if I thought they were absurd - just that they objected to being told they had to. But there must be literally hundreds of rules and restrictions in their lives that require a similar level of compliance. In the population at large, I can see why it would be inappropriate (and impractical) to make it compulsory. But frontline NHS staff, dealing with vunerable patients? It's a no brainer for me. The girl in The Wild One asks Marlon Brando, "What you rebelling against?", and Brando says, "What have you got?". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jones1328 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, rodders0223 said: Because I've been doing it for 2 years and I don't want to anymore I want to get on with life and forget it. It's barely news. Cases are high but not going our of control. Deaths are stable. Patients in his hospital stable. Ventilators. Stable. We're all jabbed. Most people getting ill are severely vulnerable or not jabbed. When does it end!?! Simple question. How is wearing a mask in the shops stopping you from "getting on with life"? Also, you trying to "forget it" when it comes to COVID doesn't automatically then mean that you're somehow bullet proof to either getting the virus or passing it onto others. Cases are around 95K a day currently (with estimates this is likely to be 3-4x higher in reality). Just because you believe "its barely news" doesn't mean it's not still quite a major issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seat68 Posted January 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Because I've been doing it for 2 years and I don't want to anymore I want to get on with life and forget it. It's barely news. Cases are high but not going our of control. Deaths are stable. Patients in his hospital stable. Ventilators. Stable. We're all jabbed. Most people getting ill are severely vulnerable or not jabbed. When does it end!?! Sainsbury's request that patrons wear a mask, for the benefit of other customers. A lot of comparable supermarkets don't. Are non mask wearers so bloody minded and selfish instead of taking their custom elsewhere they choose for no reason to go against a shops policy. The fact that people have pride in this is really very worrying. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 As somebody absolutely sick to the back teeth of restrictions, argued against mandatory 3rd/4th/5th jabs etc. Just wear a mask dude lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, rodders0223 said: Because I've been doing it for 2 years and I don't want to anymore I want to get on with life and forget it. It's barely news. Cases are high but not going our of control. Deaths are stable. Patients in his hospital stable. Ventilators. Stable. We're all jabbed. Most people getting ill are severely vulnerable or not jabbed. When does it end!?! I think it's a case of perspective. I'm at the other end of the scale to you, and can appreciate why the "oldies" may have been staring. I'm 40, but at very high risk from Covid due to a chronic health condition I have. Not my fault, not anyone else's either. But not a choice I made. Due to meds I take, I haven't produced an antibody response to 5 covid jabs I've had. There's a few million people with the same circumstances I have, in the country who feel totally abandoned now people have stopped all the precautions. It really does mean a lot to me personally when I see people wearing a mask. During the last two years the only time I've been anywhere is to go to hospital. Due to my circumstances and the lifting of restrictions I'm going to continue to miss out on my birthdays, family occasions, time with friends, and all the nice things we're all keen to get back to. Anything people do to stop the spread is so warmly received by people like me. I won't judge anybody who doesn't agree because I don't know their circumstances, just offering a perspective why people may "stare" if you're not wearing a mask. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Boomer stare of death in Sainsburys for non masking wearing. Yes it's 9 am on Friday and the crowd is 99.9% oldies and it is Sainsburys policy....but I'm not doing it anymore. I'm jabbed 3 times. I've obeyed every law every lockdown every isolation. I refuse to wear a mask. It is now law. So you can look at me like I'm scum. Look at me like I'm selfish I sacrificed a good chunk of 18 months and did everything for you people. Getting jabbed to the day I literally could. So tut and give me evils. Sure . 'Me me me' 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, MCU said: 'Me me me' Me me me. Yes that is why the past 2 years I've gone nowhere done nothing obeyed every law. For my benefit. Of course .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted January 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2022 Nothing wrong with masks staying for supermarkets / public transport etc. when people have a bit of a cold / flu like they already were used in Asia (generalisation / lack of knowledge). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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