Eligius Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 hours ago, mjmooney said: Well, quite apart from the argument that charity is an abrogation of government responsibility, you don't need a monarchy to have a charity. Are you seriously suggesting that people only donate to (say) the RSPCA or the RNLI because of the "R" in the name? No I am not suggesting that people only donate to charities because they have Royal in the name but having a Royal patron or president provides vital publicity for the work of these organisations, unless Prince Andrew is a patron of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Eligius said: No I am not suggesting that people only donate to charities because they have Royal in the name but having a Royal patron or president provides vital publicity for the work of these organisations, unless Prince Andrew is a patron of course Perhaps. But it's a poor reflection on our attitudes if (say) opening a new lifeboat station or animal sanctuary is only 'newsworthy' if some privileged toff rocks up to cut the ribbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only2McInallys Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Eligius said: Plenty of under privileged people mainly youngsters have been helped tremendously by Royal charities which is something you can't put a price on in what the monarchy brings to many, some of the poorest in society have been funded by Prince Charles's charity in setting up businesses and have gone on to run successful companies whilst taking on staff from the very same social poor background. Plus, the hundreds of charities that have a Royal as patron have helped in gaining extra funds to help the under privileged people, animals etc. If people feel better about their lives by having a party and celebrating the jubilee then good for them, because over the last few years there hasn't been much to be cheerful about. For me the main reason why I don’t believe in the monarchy is because it is telling people what ever you do or whatever you achieve there will always be a group of people who are above you. A working class kid can go to Oxford or Cambridge make some discovery or major advance but is told sorry mate you will always need to be subservient to Royals. I think it has held this country back hugely and reinforced the class system where many working class people don’t aspire to things because they should know their place. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted June 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2022 Great few days of celebration. Congratulations Ma’am on a record unlikely to be bettered and well done GB for putting on a show as only we can. It’s what sets us apart God bless the Queen 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Designer1 Posted June 5, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Great few days of celebration. Congratulations Ma’am on a record unlikely to be bettered and well done GB for putting on a show as only we can. It’s what sets us apart God bless the Queen 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PaulC Posted June 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Follyfoot said: Great few days of celebration. Congratulations Ma’am on a record unlikely to be bettered and well done GB for putting on a show as only we can. It’s what sets us apart God bless the Queen Its truly wonderful. We all should be very proud! 1 1 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, PaulC said: Its truly wonderful. We all should be very proud! Why? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just saw comments online as to people being confused by Rod Stewart singing "Sweet caroline" (I didn't watch so have no idea what he did at the Queen's bash). "Why did ghe cover Sweet caroline" says one..."Should have done Sailing" said another. Oblivious to the fact that "Sailing" is also a cover 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Only2McInallys said: For me the main reason why I don’t believe in the monarchy is because it is telling people what ever you do or whatever you achieve there will always be a group of people who are above you. A working class kid can go to Oxford or Cambridge make some discovery or major advance but is told sorry mate you will always need to be subservient to Royals. I think it has held this country back hugely and reinforced the class system where many working class people don’t aspire to things because they should know their place. Bloody hell, I'm glad we all don't think this way! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: Bloody hell, I'm glad we all don't think this way! Quite a lot of us do though. I will never accept that my kids are born below someone else’s 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 5, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Eligius said: No I am not suggesting that people only donate to charities because they have Royal in the name but having a Royal patron or president provides vital publicity for the work of these organisations, unless Prince Andrew is a patron of course Do you have any actual evidence for this? Sounds like one of those things they say in the royalist supporting media to justify being in favour of he Monarchy. Almost as much nonsense as the tourism argument 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 5, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Follyfoot said: Great few days of celebration. Congratulations Ma’am on a record unlikely to be bettered and well done GB for putting on a show as only we can. It’s what sets us apart God bless the Queen British exceptionalism. It really doesn’t set us apart from anything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 5, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Bloody hell, I'm glad we all don't think this way! Bloody Hell, I'm glad we don't all think this way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) The worst thing for me about the Jubilee celebrations is we have to listen to Ed Sheeran soon enough. Edited June 5, 2022 by foreveryoung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 5, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 5, 2022 41 minutes ago, PaulC said: Its truly wonderful. We all should be very proud! Proud of what, proud of someone who who is the head of the world's most famous dysfunctional family, who married her cousin (duelling banjos anyone) and raised and protected a nonce. A family that locked away two family members in a castle because they were not born normal, never allowed to be seen in public. The Royals are bunch of sick scummy horrible people 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, bickster said: Proud of what, proud of someone who who is the head of the world's most famous dysfunctional family, who married her cousin (duelling banjos anyone) and raised and protected a nonce. A family that locked away two family members in a castle because they were not born normal, never allowed to be seen in public. The Royals are bunch of sick scummy horrible people Sounds like 90% of the families in the UK (bar the nonce bit ofcourse). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Sounds like 90% of the families in the UK (bar the nonce bit ofcourse). Sounds like projection to me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Watching this pageant lark and putting tiny kids in a box waving at people who adore them and feel subservient because they were pushed out of the right fanny, it’s 2022 ffs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted June 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, bickster said: Proud of what, proud of someone who who is the head of the world's most famous dysfunctional family, who married her cousin (duelling banjos anyone) and raised and protected a nonce. A family that locked away two family members in a castle because they were not born normal, never allowed to be seen in public. The Royals are bunch of sick scummy horrible people As it happens I’ve just been reading about Nerissa and Katherine Bowes-Lyon. Now their story isn’t exactly hot off the press and I am now aware that it’s covered in “The Crown”. I was completely unaware of them (I don’t watch the show). But bloody hell. Perhaps this is just my perception being way off - it probably is -but why isn’t that spoken about more? Edited June 5, 2022 by Mark Albrighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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