tinker Posted March 5 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: He's key but he's annoyingly one of our most replaceable players. Sell him for 100m and buy Palacios from Leverkusen and you wouldn't see a huge drop off. Sell Pau, Ollie, Martinez, Konsa, Bailey etc and we're struggling. If only it was that easy, players don't always settle into clubs, countries or areas, Doug has and is obviously comfortable at the villa and this has allowed him to grow into the player he is today. Other players don't and it can take time or never happen despite their technical ability been more than good enough. We have seen this with Bailey and we are currently watching it with Diaby, ability is only one factor amongst many that make players successful at clubs . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post juanpablosaliceband Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 32 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: He's key but he's annoyingly one of our most replaceable players. Sell him for 100m and buy Palacios from Leverkusen and you wouldn't see a huge drop off. Sell Pau, Ollie, Martinez, Konsa, Bailey etc and we're struggling. I wouldn’t agree with this. I think he’s our single least replaceable player. There aren’t many players out there with his array of skills. Passing, scoring goals, set pieces, penalties, positioning, defensively good, brilliant on the ball. He also brings some samba spirit to the team. Losing him would weaken us significantly in my opinion. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 38 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: He's key but he's annoyingly one of our most replaceable players. Sell him for 100m and buy Palacios from Leverkusen and you wouldn't see a huge drop off. Sell Pau, Ollie, Martinez, Konsa, Bailey etc and we're struggling. Sort of agree… but I wouldn’t put Konsa or Bailey in the irreplaceable for £100m category. Maybe not even Watkins, although he’s very much key to how we play. I think Luiz is very important for us. He’s not a dominating midfielder, but his positioning, passing and creativity are absolutely vital to how we play right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: Sort of agree… but I wouldn’t put Konsa or Bailey in the irreplaceable for £100m category. Maybe not even Watkins, although he’s very much key to how we play. I think Luiz is very important for us. He’s not a dominating midfielder, but his positioning, passing and creativity are absolutely vital to how we play right now. That's fair, I do think it's hard to find a CB with Konsa's skillset though. In the PL, the closest comparison I see is Saliba, and we're not getting anyone of that level without paying 60m+. Watkins is absolutely irreplaceable IMO. There are maybe 10 strikers of his quality in the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentfordnylons Posted March 5 Visiting Supporter Share Posted March 5 Most of this will become irrelevant when the PL have their meeting in June to announce new rules on FFP which will suit clubs with Billionaire owners but not the likes of Brentford West Ham Wolves Bournmouth to name a few.Basically the top 6 and a few other clubs outside will be free to spend as much as they like as long as the spend is backed up with guarantees a type of escrow account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted March 5 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, Brentfordnylons said: Most of this will become irrelevant when the PL have their meeting in June to announce new rules on FFP which will suit clubs with Billionaire owners but not the likes of Brentford West Ham Wolves Bournmouth to name a few.Basically the top 6 and a few other clubs outside will be free to spend as much as they like as long as the spend is backed up with guarantees a type of escrow account. Source for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, PieFacE said: Source for this? There is none, anything like this would have to be voted for by a Majority of teams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, StefanAVFC said: He's key but he's annoyingly one of our most replaceable players. Sell him for 100m and buy Palacios from Leverkusen and you wouldn't see a huge drop off. Sell Pau, Ollie, Martinez, Konsa, Bailey etc and we're struggling. Totally disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentfordnylons Posted March 5 Visiting Supporter Share Posted March 5 21 minutes ago, MSvillain said: There is none, anything like this would have to be voted for by a Majority of teams Needs 14 clubs to agree and it goes through and there are at least that many with billionaire owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 7 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: Totally disagree. Sorry, poor phrasing. Most replaceable from our highly valuable assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 5 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Sorry, poor phrasing. Most replaceable from our highly valuable assets. You're right, tbf. Had this conversation with somebody earlier. Martinez, Watkins and to a *slightly* lesser extent, Torres, will be virtually impossible to replace - certainly for less than a staggering amount of £. Luiz is replaceable because the pool of quality central midfielders is greater than quality strikers. And, I mean, how do you replace the best keeper in the world? I know some won't like to hear it but players like Bailey, McGinn, Konsa, Kamara etc. Yes, they're all fantastic, but there are better players out there, or certainly players as good, you've just got to find them. Edited March 5 by Delphinho123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 5 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5 47 minutes ago, Brentfordnylons said: Most of this will become irrelevant when the PL have their meeting in June to announce new rules on FFP which will suit clubs with Billionaire owners but not the likes of Brentford West Ham Wolves Bournmouth to name a few.Basically the top 6 and a few other clubs outside will be free to spend as much as they like as long as the spend is backed up with guarantees a type of escrow account. And UEFA will follow suit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentfordnylons Posted March 5 Visiting Supporter Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, sidcow said: And UEFA will follow suit? Yes I’ve been told they are the drivers behind this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 No way would I sell him and I imagine the FFP goal posts will be moved soon to give teams more wiggle room. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 25 minutes ago, Brentfordnylons said: Needs 14 clubs to agree and it goes through and there are at least that many with billionaire owners. So when you said this "Basically the top 6 and a few other clubs outside" you actually meant it would suit the majority of the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentfordnylons Posted March 5 Visiting Supporter Share Posted March 5 55 minutes ago, Brentfordnylons said: Most of this will become irrelevant when the PL have their meeting in June to announce new rules on FFP which will suit clubs with Billionaire owners but not the likes of Brentford West Ham Wolves Bournmouth to name a few.Basically the top 6 and a few other clubs outside will be free to spend as much as they like as long as the spend is backed up with guarantees a type of escrow account. Sorry should have put this in FFP thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentfordnylons Posted March 5 Visiting Supporter Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, MSvillain said: So when you said this "Basically the top 6 and a few other clubs outside" you actually meant it would suit the majority of the league? Looking at the lack of spending in the January window where Brentford have become the biggest spenders the answer is yes because most clubs seem to be on the brink of falling foul of FFP.Sky sports transfer programme was as lively as a dead sheep in January window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 8 minutes ago, MSvillain said: So when you said this "Basically the top 6 and a few other clubs outside" you actually meant it would suit the majority of the league? To be fair there should be a system that suits 92 clubs not just a % of the top tier - but that’s OT! For Villa, if we have to sell to buy that’s just a case of balancing the books and that’s fair enough in any business. As for Dougie - I see both sides. I get that at £100m you can find other great midfielders - but even the best can take time to settle. Also as someone who always sang his praises and said to be patient when others were saying he was rubbish and to get rid, I just want to enjoy him for another season or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Irreplaceable. Loves Villa so much he tailored his celebration to fit in with VT's love of fish puns. Legend 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 13 hours ago, avfc1982am said: Course I can argue with it. it's not just the numbers he's been instrumental in our form this season and everything good we've done. The idea that banging a bird is causing him to lose focus is ludicrous. Absolute nonsense. Every player in the squad is probably in a relationship ffs. Who said anything about that's what is causing him to lose focus? If they did I missed that part of the convo. And I didn't say you couldn't argue with it, I said you can't argue with the numbers he's putting up, in a good way, ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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