pete101 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 23 has played in premier League already and a position we needed to fill , no brainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I think we are overpaying for him but he’ll be worth it in the long term, he was excellent in the play off final against us for Fulham, not the season just gone but the one before. He’s a typical modern day full back with an excellent delivery on him. He’ll be great for us I think, vast upgrade on Taylor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I'd may 50m if it meant Taylor didn't have to play in the prem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Nigel said: Yep. They see them week in week out, in all kinds of situations on and off the pitch. I'd put them above any scout. I take it you disagree? Well if you took these pages as an example many reading through would say a lot of Villa Fans think Hutton was a complete disaster, Westwood was a complete incompetent (despite forging a decent Premier League career) Rushian HM looking a good prospect if only given some time but Keinan Davis has no prospect of making it. Football fans develop very very biased views on players and very often the fan base is completely split. I would rather trust the judgement an experienced scout/coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 hour ago, supermon said: Lool why is this so hard to comprehend? There's two spots for the left back position, just my opinion that Taylor will start the campaign as the starting left back, I don't really rate Targett from what I've seen (yes I have seen him play for Saints) Because it makes no sense. He wouldn't come here to sit on the bench and we wouldn't spend that money on a back up in a position we need to improve on. He may not start the first game but he is being signed to be our first choice lb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanmac Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Southampton have brought through a hell of a lot of youth players, they're one of the best in the country in terms of their academy and bringing through youth. This guy's 23 and hasn't managed to make much of an impression in 5 years. This seems like a lot of money for a PL fringe player. When the other teams fans are rubbing their hands together, delighted with the money they've got for one of their players, it's a worrying sign. To be fair to him, he was good at Fulham, so hopefully he can make the step up as a regular starter. I honestly don't think thats an indicator though. Ward prowse was/still is shit according to most of their fans and was often a bench player but he was being touted for england this season. My mate is a southampton fan and they have been absolute dirge for the past few years. I know from our final few years in the Prem how easy it is for the more technical players/less physical players to get cast aside and labelled as shite but then thrive when they move to a club with players that can give a f**k and actually pass a football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 The bonus of this is that it funds their move for che adams. Genius villa. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Because it makes no sense. He wouldn't come here to sit on the bench and we wouldn't spend that money on a back up in a position we need to improve on. He may not start the first game but he is being signed to be our first choice lb Fair enough, of course I hope he does well for us. Just wish we had a more pacy LB. One of his criticism is that he rarely overlaps, but I suppose Dean Smith is good at working wonders with these sort of players Edited June 29, 2019 by supermon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 33 minutes ago, sidcow said: Well if you took these pages as an example many reading through would say a lot of Villa Fans think Hutton was a complete disaster, Westwood was a complete incompetent (despite forging a decent Premier League career) Rushian HM looking a good prospect if only given some time but Keinan Davis has no prospect of making it. Football fans develop very very biased views on players and very often the fan base is completely split. I would rather trust the judgement an experienced scout/coach. A lot of people had written off Taylor, but now have him as first choice. Perhaps that’s an indication of the importance of good coaching. We can only judge players once they’ve been coached well and integrated in to a system of playing. Some will settle quickly and other take more time. Either way the coaching staff have earned the right to have that time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I don't know much about him but trust Deano and the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: A lot of people had written off Taylor, but now have him as first choice. Perhaps that’s an indication of the importance of good coaching. We can only judge players once they’ve been coached well and integrated in to a system of playing. Some will settle quickly and other take more time. Either way the coaching staff have earned the right to have that time. He was only first choice because they’re was no alternative. Agree with your post though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Perhaps a football forum is the wrong place to post this but, jeez, there are so many ‘back seat drivers’ on speculation threads. Why do blokes think that they know better than someone who has all the facts to hand (including budgets, available targets and their likely purchase values) and knows much more about what is required to compliment the squad? Until a player has played for us for a decent number of games, we’ll never know whether we should have signed a player or whether the supposed fee was ‘value’.Then it’s just management with hindsight as the posters who happen to have guessed correctly on the occasion shout loudly whilst those who got it wrong usually keep their heads low. Especially when were are currently being managed well, there appears to be many Billy Bleach “Hold the bells” characters on speculation threads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 29, 2019 There's absolutely no way he's coming here to play behind Taylor in the Premier League. Taylor was pretty awful in the Championship. Granted, he got better as the season went on but he provides us absolutely nothing going forward. Considering how many goals we score from crosses, it's pretty tragic that I don't think he's even got 1 assist from a cross. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, PieFacE said: There's absolutely no way he's coming here to play behind Taylor in the Premier League. Taylor was pretty awful in the Championship. Granted, he got better as the season went on but he provides us absolutely nothing going forward. Considering how many goals we score from crosses, it's pretty tragic that I don't think he's even got 1 assist from a cross. El Ghazi goal v Forest. Although there was still a lot to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I’ve never seen him play so can’t really comment. As for the fans opinion of him most fans don’t know what they are talking about but if pretty much all of them are happy his leaving then it’s a bit worrying. Do you worry that Smith and his team haven’t researched the player correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 minute ago, brommy said: Do you worry that Smith and his team haven’t researched the player correctly? Nah I’d expect they would have done a lot of research on him before shelling out that kind of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Nah I’d expect they would have done a lot of research on him before shelling out that kind of money. So what is worrying you about this possible transfer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, brommy said: So what is worrying you about this possible transfer? I thought I already said. Edit: for the record though I’d much prefer this signing than an unknown from Europe. Edited June 29, 2019 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 He only played three less games for Southampton last season than did Bertrand, they also got half their points last season in Targett's sixteen league appearances for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I thought I already said. Who do you trust the most - some saints forum posters or Smith and his team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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