Troglodyte Posted July 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 I like Fred on the pitch. He's a solid player and would be excellent back-up, although KKH is the future and it's right that he's behind Cash if he's not going out on loan. I just get a feeling though that despite his outward commitment and determination, Fred is a mardy little shit who doesn't get on well with many people. Based on nothing but a hunch but surely he can't have been bombed out in so many different situations for absolutely nothing, despite his clearly strong performances in France and reasonable level of ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 poor guy, he must hate this place by now! Personally I thought he was one of the more exciting players in that first season back but guess its just not meant to be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Probably go out on loan yet again and we'll sell him for nominal fee in Jan. In fairness we signed him for a couple of million so won't be a big loss compared to a few others we signed in 2019. He at least in his Villa career has had a run of starts, Sanson hasn't so that's the more unjust Villa career so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 13 hours ago, MellbergsBeard said: Training with the kids by the looks of things, really ruined his career by coming here, feel bad for him. Not really though. He's not a PL player it's that simple. He's full blooded and wears his heart on his sleeve but he's technically really bad and things on the pitch that unfold are just too quick for him. Strengths: slide tackles. Says it all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) Don’t know why so many are making Guilbert out to be the victim here or hard done by, Smith nor Gerrard rate/ratted him , something is of behind the scenes with this guy. That and the fact he isn’t good enough. Edited July 29, 2022 by gwi1890 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 14 hours ago, MellbergsBeard said: Training with the kids by the looks of things, really ruined his career by coming here, feel bad for him. Are you serious? He spent 2 seasons playing in the league he will most likely end up but paid a much higher wage than his teammates! He got a great deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Are you serious? He spent 2 seasons playing in the league he will most likely end up but paid a much higher wage than his teammates! He got a great deal. Yes, because all that matters is money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Are you serious? He spent 2 seasons playing in the league he will most likely end up but paid a much higher wage than his teammates! He got a great deal. Premier league wages for playing in Ligue 1. Not ideal for having a great relationship with your colleagues, but he's always seemed happy to be here and happy playing in France so guess he sees the upside too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, bobzy said: Yes, because all that matters is money. The alternative would have been playing in that league but on a Ligue 1 salary. Yep, I’m sure he would have preferred that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Risso Posted July 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 I thought he was decent our first season back, one of our better players. I thought he'd be a decent back up to Cash, but to be fair KKH looks a hell of a talent. Not sure Guilbert deserves the bomb squad treatement though. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: The alternative would have been playing in that league but on a Ligue 1 salary. Yep, I’m sure he would have preferred that. Yes, but he wouldn't have had to (presumably) uproot his family, move to a new country etc and then have one season of playing a little bit before getting dropped and loaned out, back to France... where he could have just stayed if he knew that his "big move" wasn't quite what he thought it would be. Some people view footballers in a really weird way. Having a new baby? Shouldn't affect you, you earn loads. Get abuse on social media? Shouldn't affect you, you earn loads. Moving to a new country and career stalling? Shouldn't affect you, you earn loads. They're still people 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Risso said: I thought he was decent our first season back, one of our better players. I thought he'd be a decent back up to Cash, but to be fair KKH looks a hell of a talent. Not sure Guilbert deserves the bomb squad treatement though. Basically this. I thought he looked decent - something has happened, for whatever reason. But yes, KKH is the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Wasn't there a rumour of a training ground bust up between him and Dean Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, Risso said: Wasn't there a rumour of a training ground bust up between him and Dean Smith? I know who my money would be on, and it ain't the French guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: I know who my money would be on, and it ain't the French guy. It must be Dean Smith then! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, bobzy said: Yes, but he wouldn't have had to (presumably) uproot his family, move to a new country etc and then have one season of playing a little bit before getting dropped and loaned out, back to France... where he could have just stayed if he knew that his "big move" wasn't quite what he thought it would be. Some people view footballers in a really weird way. Having a new baby? Shouldn't affect you, you earn loads. Get abuse on social media? Shouldn't affect you, you earn loads. Moving to a new country and career stalling? Shouldn't affect you, you earn loads. They're still people I get all that but career ruined and feel sorry for him? Really? Edited July 29, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, bobzy said: Yes, but he wouldn't have had to (presumably) uproot his family, move to a new country etc and then have one season of playing a little bit before getting dropped and loaned out, back to France... where he could have just stayed if he knew that his "big move" wasn't quite what he thought it would be. Some people view footballers in a really weird way. Having a new baby? Shouldn't affect you, you earn loads. Get abuse on social media? Shouldn't affect you, you earn loads. Moving to a new country and career stalling? Shouldn't affect you, you earn loads. They're still people And moving jobs / countries isn't the end of the world, lots of people do it and lots of times it doesn't work. Freddie is in the fortunate that moving house for him is less of an inconvenience than it would be for non footballing people as they have a huge financial benefit that will stay with them for the rest of their lives. I am quite sure Freddie and his family will cope with the stress of it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I guess you're just proving my point 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 5 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: It must be Dean Smith then! Ain't you the clever one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, sheepyvillian said: Ain't you the clever one? Ain't I just m8. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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