MotoMkali Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 8 hours ago, smg said: Another one who gets better the less he plays. He was probably our 4th best player in 19/20. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Tom13 said: He definitely hasn't got skill. He could be quite awkward on the ball, that's what limited him so much IMO. Just 7 players have completed more crosses than Guilbert. Created as many big chances as neymar and has as many assists. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Literally can't do any more, is a key player in a team who have pushed on hugely so far this season. If we don't have him back, his value should be 10 million or so to anyone wanting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 13 hours ago, HalfTimePost said: He's playing quite a bit and is regularly in the Ligue Un ToTW His team are a point off the Champions League and he is a regular starter yet people criticise the French league on here Similar people want us to sign Botman for 50 million who is playing in the same league for a team 6 points behind Strasbourg and conceded more goals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 59 minutes ago, Zatman said: His team are a point off the Champions League and he is a regular starter yet people criticise the French league on here Similar people want us to sign Botman for 50 million who is playing in the same league for a team 6 points behind Strasbourg and conceded more goals That's a very simplistic way of looking at things. You can't compare Guilbert to Botman that generally, without looking at the other 10 starters! Dirk Kuty and Luis Suarez were both key players in the Eredivisie, and look at the difference in class between those two players. And I'm sure Ajax had plenty of struggles while Suarez was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: That's a very simplistic way of looking at things. You can't compare Guilbert to Botman that generally, without looking at the other 10 starters! Dirk Kuty and Luis Suarez were both key players in the Eredivisie, and look at the difference in class between those two players. And I'm sure Ajax had plenty of struggles while Suarez was there. Ok guilbert is the 2nd highest rated player on his team. Botman is 4th, another cm (renato sanches) is higher rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 34 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: Ok guilbert is the 2nd highest rated player on his team. Botman is 4th, another cm (renato sanches) is higher rated. Maybe Guilbert has improved and I'd like to see him given another chance, but I can't see how his game can have changed too much. Not sure why you've only stated Sanches as one of the players higher rated than Botman? Botman is a CB, not a CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 12 hours ago, Tom13 said: Maybe Guilbert has improved and I'd like to see him given another chance, but I can't see how his game can have changed too much. Not sure why you've only stated Sanches as one of the players higher rated than Botman? Botman is a CB, not a CM. I misread his position. Thought it said CM. Botman is 4th. Marginally ahead of another CB. And the difference presumably comes from the 2 additional goals Botman has scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Yesterdays man. Need to stop resurrecting players who had their chance and didn’t measure up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 46 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: I misread his position. Thought it said CM. Botman is 4th. Marginally ahead of another CB. And the difference presumably comes from the 2 additional goals Botman has scored. Need to watch them though, can't go off ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Another assist so far today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted February 20, 2022 Visiting Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2022 On 18/02/2022 at 14:12, meregreen said: Yesterdays man. Need to stop resurrecting players who had their chance and didn’t measure up. Or maybe he wasn’t given a decent run of games by Smith? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 File him under Sanson, Berson, Makoun, Engels, Helenius, Beye, Kalinic (off the top of my head) for players we buy for no reason as we never, ever want to play them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Wasn't their talk of him going to Fulham on loan, perhaps they'll sign him when promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Strasbourg play him as a wing back and he is thriving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 He needs to be played as a wing back apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Strasbourg could be playing in the CL next season, not sure why he'd want to downgrade and come back at this point. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 9 hours ago, AVFCforever1991 said: He needs to be played as a wing back apparently Is that not exactly what we are expecting of ours at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 4 hours ago, MrBlack said: Is that not exactly what we are expecting of ours at the moment? Yep and that's why he needs to be given a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) Why hasn't Gerrard recalled him in Jan to at least have a look at him? Because our lack of depth at RB (and LB now Targett has gone out on loan) is frightening. Edited February 21, 2022 by Tom13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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