villalad21 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, Eastie said: I think that a club like villa could attract someone like that from Brighton irrespective of him being a local lad - villa is still a step up in size and potential . Potter would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, VillaFaninLondon said: Very funny. It must be great posting narrow minded, foolish comments all the time. What about it is ‘narrow minded’? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, a m ole said: And we’re 12th, mid table. 3 points from 14th and 2 points from 7th. On goal difference which is an excellent indicator of a teams ability to score and prevent goals, we’re actually joint 10th. So, around where we expected then? Stop spouting facts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Chelsea should sell all their players and buy better, younger, cheaper ones. Shouldn't every club sell their players and buy better, cheaper and younger ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, villalad21 said: Potter would be awesome. Yeah we could hover above relegation season after season playing pretty football for years without going anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: We have Billionaire owners, it's not like the old days under Lerner and Xia. The owners and the board are showing serious ambition and spending serious money, so I would think, expect progression and not to stand still. We are not a club like Southampton Burnley or Newcastle, who's owners just expect to stay in the Prem, we are being pushed and funded to reach European Football and soon enough I would think silverware. Like I said before you need to apply context We have spent serious money over a 3 year period trying to chase teams who have also spent serious money but every summer for 5 to 10 years You can we spent more than spurs this summer but they spent it on one player to add to their already more expensive squad In that context what they've spent isn't enough We aren't Burnley or Newcastle but we aren't spurs or Leicester or even west ham either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: We have Billionaire owners, it's not like the old days under Lerner and Xia. The owners and the board are showing serious ambition and spending serious money, so I would think, expect progression and not to stand still. We are not a club like Southampton Burnley or Newcastle, who's owners just expect to stay in the Prem, we are being pushed and funded to reach European Football and soon enough I would think silverware. Literally every club in the league except Norwich and Watford has billionaire owners. That means nothing if you're not an oil state who can skirt FFP laws at will. We're spending decent money, but you're blinded by £ signs. From where we came from (a depleted 5th place Championship team), that's midtable money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, a m ole said: What about it is ‘narrow minded’? Because you're not engaging in the actual issues and instead posting things that are irrelevant. I don't try to belittle your comments defending Smith at every turn so respect my point of view too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Keyblade said: There are obviously better managers out there, it's not exactly like he's Klopp or Guardiola. But I don't see the point in discussing replacing him when there's absolutely nothing to warrant it. Unless we can entice Conte or Pochettino to join us, what's the point? Even they can only take us so far with this squad. We're not finishing in the top 6 with or without Smith. I don't think it needs to be Klopp or Poch standard tbh to get us 7th or 8th in next two years. As I've said before Leicester is a very good template for us to follow for a few reasons. Rodgers certainly wasn't in top bracket of coaches when they got him but he's fitted them very well with what they needed at the time. From the pool of players we have now we certainly need to be looking at one of those Bundesliga manic pressing managers if we need a new one at some point in next 12 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Peter Griffin said: Shouldn't every club sell their players and buy better, cheaper and younger ones? All of them yep. So weird they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, nick76 said: Yeah we could hover above relegation season after season playing pretty football for years without going anywhere. Think I'll trust Guardiola's assessment over yours thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, nick76 said: …our results are proving we are a midtable team They are not proving that, they are showing that is how we are playing. That doesn't prove it is where we should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Good post. Yep, it's a concern for sure. I'm certain Smith isn't happy with what we've been doing. Looking forward to Sanson and Bailey getting fully fit. Big decision for the boss coming up because it looks for all the world like we need a tweak of system and it's his beautiful son Ollie Watkins who needs to be dropped. Agree. He's got big calls to make for Arsenal and he's got to get them right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digavilla Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just read Smith post match interview, he said team “lose a little composure, they got the set pieces & score from them”. But he took off Luis/ Bhundia & brought in Ramsey / Nakamba( less technician gifted players ) & expect those 2 have the calmness to circulate the ball / do Ronda/ kill the games off.. I am sure as head coach he should know Nakamba /Ramsey are not the technical gifted type like the Latin players that has close ball control and can be task to have composure /do Ronda for 10 mins to see the game off. Samson would be more suitable than Ramsey for this role. if he don’t have this foresight & just simply bring them on to replace tired legs & simply asked to them to just defend deep, than I am very disappointed and doubt his ability to take us forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, VillaFaninLondon said: Because you're not engaging in the actual issues and instead posting things that are irrelevant. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Tomaszk said: All of them yep. So weird they don't. Yeah, some people just fail to understand when the best time is to sell a player. They don't seem to be able to take into account, age, length of contract, years already amortised and the impact on the accounting profit and the P&S consequences of said. Buy hey, not everyone is able to see the big picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: Think I'll trust Guardiola's assessment over yours thanks. Yep because Guardiola and other top managers don’t praise other managers all the time and at different points of the season. Not like he’s going to say Potter is shit is he! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, VillaChris said: I don't think it needs to be Klopp or Poch standard tbh to get us 7th or 8th in next two years. As I've said before Leicester is a very good template for us to follow for a few reasons. Rodgers certainly wasn't in top bracket of coaches when they got him but he's fitted them very well with what they needed at the time. From the pool of players we have now we certainly need to be looking at one of those Bundesliga manic pressing managers if we need a new one at some point in next 12 months. Funny thing is, if any club in the league were looking to do what you're suggesting, Dean Smith would be near the top if not at the top of their lists of becoming their Brendan Rodgers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, a m ole said: When did it happen before? 27 Jan 2021 Burnley 3 Villa 2 3 Feb 2021 West Ham 3 Villa 1 16 May 2021 Crystal Palace 3 Villa 2 14 Aug 2021 Watford 3 Villa 2 How far back do you want me to go?, have a look back yourself, if you can't remember them.....Its not the first time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, CVByrne said: The players are at fault for the loss to Wolves. Not Dean It is important to have someone to blame, whether it be the players, Dean, the referee. The universe is fundamentally chaotic. Having said that I personally blame the Wolves players for the loss. Edited October 16, 2021 by fruitvilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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