vreitti Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Much will depend on how we handle the inevitable loss or losses, which will occur at some point. Do we bounce back immediately, or not. For a top2 place, we simply cannot afford a major slump, even 3-4 games might be too much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted December 3, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, vreitti said: Much will depend on how we handle the inevitable loss or losses, which will occur at some point. Do we bounce back immediately, or not. For a top2 place, we simply cannot afford a major slump, even 3-4 games might be too much. We lost agaist Norwich and QPR...didnt seem to harm much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kurtsimonw Posted December 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2018 55 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I look at Leeds and Norwich being very consistent and i don't see them suddenly starting losing games left and center. Top 6 for me as of now is the realistic aim, i'd love to be proven wrong though. Do you think it's so hard to believe we could beat Leeds in our head to heads? If we can do that, we only need to catch up 2 points in the other 24 games. It's far from impossible. It's not like the Premier League where the top teams rarely drop points. Leeds have dropped points in nearly half their games. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 What is on our side is how many points teams are dropping. It seems that a much lower total will be needed to achieve top 2. In the championship if you can win 4 or 5 games in a row you can suddenly shoot up the table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 We need a better goalkeeper, surely this is a too priority for January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, maqroll said: We need a better goalkeeper, surely this is a too priority for January? We are gunning for Heaton apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: Do you think it's so hard to believe we could beat Leeds in our head to heads? If we can do that, we only need to catch up 2 points in the other 24 games. It's far from impossible. We will drop points as well, it's not like we're gonna win every single game for the rest of the season. We will lose games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjay Posted December 3, 2018 Visiting Supporter Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) Think now till New Year will be interesting for both of us. On paper we have aside from you away (thats up for debate) a fairly decent chance of taking maximum points from 4 of our next 5. Blackburn, QPR and Hull at home and Bolton away. In comparison you have. WBA , Swansea and Preston away and Stoke at home. Important month for both of us, season isnt settled yet but very different set of fixtures for us both. People talking about beating us to cut the gap to 5 points. We both got 2 games before we meet, gap could be gone you could be above us or 8 point gap could be 14 points. Tiz very exciting imo, love the xmas fixtures time. Edit . . Maths let me down, you could have cut the gap to 2 points before we meet. Edited December 3, 2018 by Cjay Poor maths 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cjay said: Think now till Xmas will be interesting for both of us. On paper we have aside from you away (thats up for debate) a fairly decent chance of taking maximum points from 4 of our next 5. Blackburn, QPR and Hull at home and Bolton away. In comparison you have. WBA , Swansea and Preston away and Stoke at home. Important month for both of us, season isnt settled yet but very different set of fixtures for us both. People talking about beating us to cut the gap to 5 points. We both got 2 games before we meet, gap could be gone you could be above us or 8 point gap could be 14 points. Tiz very exciting imo, love the xmas fixtures time. Many things depends on what clubs do in the january transfer window. If we can sort out the keeper, and defence situation in January i can't see many teams stopping us. Forest did kinda stop us but you have to keep in mind that they scored on every single shot they had in the game, that type of luck is like 1/100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, BOF said: Have you watched Norwich though? They are flying. They're destroying teams, and they gave us a lesson too. Yes we've improved greatly since then, but they've been playing that well for a while now. If we played Norwich tomorrow I think we would beat them. We are far better now than when we played them. I think. Norwich just about beat Rotherham at home and have not had injuries like we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 50 minutes ago, Nigel said: We lost agaist Norwich and QPR...didnt seem to harm much! True, but this was early on... now we've set a new standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: We'e not even in the top 6 and you're talking about winning the league. I think it's nonsense If you take away the first 3 games under Smith, seeing as he was teaching our players how to play football again.. we have taken 13 points from a possible 15. Only Norwich have matched this, meaning we have taken more points than all other sides in those 5 games. Then you have to consider that during this run we have played some of the best teams in the league and absolutely destroyed them - then it really sinks in that this is no purple patch or new manager bounce. I don't think its nonsense at all to be considering us as potential champions or top 2, in fact I think we are the most feared team in the league right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjay Posted December 3, 2018 Visiting Supporter Share Posted December 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Many things depends on what clubs do in the january transfer window. If we can sort out the keeper, and defence situation in January i can't see many teams stopping us. Forest did kinda stop us but you have to keep in mind that they scored on every single shot they had in the game, that type of luck is like 1/100 If you can then i agree, your defence is so dodgy if you can fix that in January then you will be hard to stop. Although how you can afford to fix that in January still baffles me tbh. I'm hopeful for the Villa game. Anyone can beat anyone so easier fixtures or not we have won 3 with 3 clean sheets. Our away form is the 2nd best in the league and we have beaten convincingly 2nd 3rd and 4th best teams at home (we are the best home side). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 3, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 3, 2018 35 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: If we played Norwich tomorrow I think we would beat them. We are far better now than when we played them. I think. My point was about how Norwich were playing at the time. I said we've improved since then. It wasn't about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Craigy1874 said: top 6 is scary, I don't know if I can deal with the playoffs again I would back us this season if we were in the playoffs. We were never going to win it under Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 42 minutes ago, Junxs said: Then you have to consider that during this run we have played some of the best teams in the league and absolutely destroyed them - then it really sinks in that this is no purple patch or new manager bounce. Whilst i am quietly hoping that is the case, its really too early to know. Bruce had a good patch near the start of his management, then went on a massive losing/drawing streak. Not that i think this will happen under Smith, but results might dip from the current 2 PPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Junxs said: If you take away the first 3 games under Smith, seeing as he was teaching our players how to play football again.. we have taken 13 points from a possible 15. Only Norwich have matched this, meaning we have taken more points than all other sides in those 5 games. Then you have to consider that during this run we have played some of the best teams in the league and absolutely destroyed them - then it really sinks in that this is no purple patch or new manager bounce. I don't think its nonsense at all to be considering us as potential champions or top 2, in fact I think we are the most feared team in the league right now Yes but we are gonna drop points as well while the teams above us will win. Your talking like we're gonna win every single game for the rest of the season Edited December 3, 2018 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 46 minutes ago, Cjay said: If you can then i agree, your defence is so dodgy if you can fix that in January then you will be hard to stop. Although how you can afford to fix that in January still baffles me tbh. I'm hopeful for the Villa game. Anyone can beat anyone so easier fixtures or not we have won 3 with 3 clean sheets. Our away form is the 2nd best in the league and we have beaten convincingly 2nd 3rd and 4th best teams at home (we are the best home side). I feel like Leeds are in this position every single year. They start well then they end up getting injuries and fall down the table. Hopefully you can make it this year, as long as it's not at expense of us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitzlsperger_12 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Teams managed by Bielsa have a reputation of dropping off in the 2nd half of the season, it's happened everywhere he goes. He works the players too hard on/off the pitch and with the fact he likes to run a small squad, it's inevitable there will be a lull for Leeds at some point imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hitzlsperger_12 said: Teams managed by Bielsa have a reputation of dropping off in the 2nd half of the season, it's happened everywhere he goes. He works the players too hard on/off the pitch and with the fact he likes to run a small squad, it's inevitable there will be a lull for Leeds at some point imo. Sounds very similar to MON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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