sne Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Arms not to his side when it hits his arm, he's clearly making himself bigger blocking the ball, intentional or not. No penalty given 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Not sure I will watch a non Villa PL game for rest of season. Its bollocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 That would have been a soft penalty. It was a rebound that hit him as he was turning, we’d be livid if it was given against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, LondonLax said: That would have been a soft penalty. It was a rebound that hit him as he was turning, we’d be livid if it was given against us. But they have been given this season against other sides. It’s the lack of consistency. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 33 minutes ago, LondonLax said: That would have been a soft penalty. It was a rebound that hit him as he was turning, we’d be livid if it was given against us. Wonder if it would have been overturned if the ref had awarded the penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 57 minutes ago, sne said: Arms not to his side when it hits his arm, he's clearly making himself bigger blocking the ball, intentional or not. No penalty given I believe Sterling was about to come into the box and would have had a clear shot at goal too. I reckon some of these refs would be happy to change their decision if they had a second look at it on the monitors, which is the most frustrating thing for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Another handball on a Plop defender, no pen yet again. With the new rules this one may be a correct call thou, but it was a handball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Wonder if it would have been overturned if the ref had awarded the penalty. I doubt it, VAR usually sides with the ref. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted November 10, 2019 Administrator Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, LondonLax said: I doubt it, VAR usually sides with the ref. How do you know? The ref can choose to ignore what VAR says, just like the other assistants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Apaprently they're saying that it hit Bernardo's hand first so it wouldn't have been a penalty anyway. Who **** knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Sky gave a quote from the PL during the game, natural position silhouette of his body reason That's bollocks but its what they said 2nd one is never handball The offside is a weird one, still not seen the lines but watching the game he looked more off than firmino last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Ken McNaughts Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 20 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: Apaprently they're saying that it hit Bernardo's hand first so it wouldn't have been a penalty anyway. Who **** knows According to the IFAB’s new laws on handball, the close-quarters ricochet onto Bernardo’s hand should only be a factor if it leads to a goal. In general play, it remains ‘accidental’ and not an offence. In other words, had the ricochet off Bernardo’s hand reached Sterling, and been put into the net, the goal would have been disallowed (but since that never happened, Bernardo has not committed an offence and the handball by Alexander-Arnold should be viewed in isolation). It is a glaring paradox in the new handball laws. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Ken McNaughts Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just heard Neil Swarbrick (Premier League Head of VAR Operations) on Sky Sports News saying that refs going to the pitch side monitor “is not being discouraged”. Either he is lying through his teeth or there isn’t a single Premier League referee with an independent mind. I am not sure which is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 These are all a result of the rules, not necessarily VAR which is just following them. VAR is shit for its own reasons, but not because of the way handball and offside are interpreted. In my opinion, if you need to pick up a micrometer just go with the initial call from the linesman. Or alternatively err in favour of either the attack or defender. As for handball, it's even more ridiculous. The ball grazing Rodri's hand before Jesus scored a goal invalidates the goal but the ball hitting TAA outstretched hand isn't a penalty? They really need to sort out these rules because they're just counter-intuitive and don't really align with the spirit of the game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Five Ken McNaughts said: Just heard Neil Swarbrick (Premier League Head of VAR Operations) on Sky Sports News saying that refs going to the pitch side monitor “is not being discouraged”. Either he is lying through his teeth or there isn’t a single Premier League referee with an independent mind. I am not sure which is worse. He also gave it a 7 out of 10 so far. Neil Taylor has been more reliable this season than VAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Ken McNaughts Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 17 hours ago, Zatman said: He also gave it a 7 out of 10 so far. Neil Taylor has been more reliable this season than VAR Yep. 7 out of 10 for VAR's performance so far. Ha! Just in case we hadn't realised our VAR overlords are utterly delusional. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 18 hours ago, Zatman said: He also gave it a 7 out of 10 so far. Now THAT is a clear and obvious error. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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