JNortonAVFC Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Good header but can somebody confirm what injury he is carrying? I am sure the commentator said he can only use the side of his foot Supposedly has a bad cut on the top of his foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Pochettino allegedly considering a recall - cannot see that happening as he clearly isn’t good enough for the premier league yet, let alone in a team pushing for European places. It may happen though if they’ve had a team struggling in the prem wanting to take him on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 So based on the line up, I'm guessing a clause in the loan does that he has to start if fit? Only reason he could be on ahead of JG today. Same with Snodgrass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: So based on the line up, I'm guessing a clause in the loan does that he has to start if fit? Only reason he could be on ahead of JG today. Same with Snodgrass? He was benched for loads of games earlier in the season, though, so that can't be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: So based on the line up, I'm guessing a clause in the loan does that he has to start if fit? Only reason he could be on ahead of JG today. Same with Snodgrass? Has any player ever in the history of football actually had this clause in their loan contract? Or is it just something football fans speculate about when they disagree with the teamsheet? I suspect it's the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, villa89 said: Has any player ever in the history of football actually had this clause in their loan contract? Or is it just something football fans speculate about when they disagree with the teamsheet? I suspect it's the former. I believe so and if not clauses, then certain penalties or payments need to be made if the player doesn't feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: I believe so and if not clauses, then certain penalties or payments need to be made if the player doesn't feature. I would be interested to find out who these players are and what the penalties or payments are. I can't imagine any manager picking a player in his team because it's going to cost the club a few pound or agreeing to loan a player knowing that he has to play him every week even if he's shit/on the piss/not interested/fighting with his team mates/etc.. In onomah's case I would be astonished if we agreed to loan him with any clauses like that in his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, villa89 said: I would be interested to find out who these players are and what the penalties or payments are. I can't imagine any manager picking a player in his team because it's going to cost the club a few pound or agreeing to loan a player knowing that he has to play him every week even if he's shit/on the piss/not interested/fighting with his team mates/etc.. In onomah's case I would be astonished if we agreed to loan him with any clauses like that in his contract. I think it's quite common in most loans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 See Tom Cleverly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: I think it's quite common in most loans Whether it is or isn't, and I don't think it is personally, it isn't in this case. In September alone, Onomah was benched against Barnsley, Forest, Burton and Bolton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 31, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2017 16 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: I think it's quite common in most loans It's the stupidest thing I've heard, well maybe today. Why would a manager let his hands be tied by a players who he has to play? That's so wrong on so many levels you have to be desperate to agree to that. And I don't think we were last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 16 minutes ago, AVTuco said: It's the stupidest thing I've heard, well maybe today. Why would a manager let his hands be tied by a players who he has to play? That's so wrong on so many levels you have to be desperate to agree to that. And I don't think we were last summer. According to Bruce we were as we had to beg clubs for players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 53 minutes ago, AVTuco said: It's the stupidest thing I've heard, well maybe today. Why would a manager let his hands be tied by a players who he has to play? That's so wrong on so many levels you have to be desperate to agree to that. And I don't think we were last summer. Football is a massive financial institute, why would the loaning club not put a fee stipulation in? It doesn't mean they can't be dropped, it just means the loanee club will be charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 31, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2017 5 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: Football is a massive financial institute, why would the loaning club not put a fee stipulation in? It doesn't mean they can't be dropped, it just means the loanee club will be charged. I suppose the point is, that the charge cannot be meaningful to the decision-making of the manager - hence making the argument that XXXXX plays because it is required in his contract, void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Makes Carlton Cole look like a grafter. **** him back to Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I have seen nothing from.him to suggest he should be starting games for us, even his goals were deflections. Back to the spuds at the end of the season please wether we go up or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 What's criminal is that he's getting game time over one of our own, namely doyle-hayes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Seemed a smart signing and he clearly has potential. He is just not ready to start regular games in midfield. I would imagine now his game time is more restricted, his motivation will also start to go, he has no investment in villa doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockport_Villain Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 What an absolute disgrace of a performance and attitude. His passing was wasteful at best, his decision making appalling, his attitude stank. He thinks he should have all the time in the world to make a decision and then messes that up. When the ball is lost, by him, he failed to show any appetite or care to run back or to try and win the ball back. The only thing that p***ed me off more than his performance was that Bruce didn’t have the nouce or guts to bring a completely ineffective player off. Not happy! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I really think he's not that good 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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