Avcol Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, TRO said: Look I can think of 2 small forwards who was able to make up for their size.....Craig Bellemy and David Speedie....not only were they quick, they were tenacious and scrapped for everything...they ratted for their opportunities. Scott is passive and trots around aimlessly, no drive....a decision has to be made with players like this. Totally agree, players like Bellamy had that animal within them and he was a real pest to the opposition defence. If Hogan isn't scoring, which he isn't and hasn't been since he arrived, he is offering absolutely nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Avcol said: Totally agree, players like Bellamy had that animal within them and he was a real pest to the opposition defence. If Hogan isn't scoring, which he isn't and hasn't been since he arrived, he is offering absolutely nothing. Our recruitment in the main has stuffed our club.....for far too long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Genuinely think I’d offer more up front and i don’t even play there for my own team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, TRO said: Look I can think of 2 small forwards who was able to make up for their size.....Craig Bellemy and David Speedie....not only were they quick, they were tenacious and scrapped for everything...they ratted for their opportunities. Speedie was excellent in the air too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Don't know why everyone still gets excited when he gets in a foot race, never seen him outpace and the slighest gust of wind throws him off stride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, mottaloo said: Speedie was excellent in the air too. Andy Gray was only 5'10. its all about Heart. Tammy is 6'3.....but he has heart too....I guess his first against QPR, his height helped him, but his heart took him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 5, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Blasterpocket68 said: he has done it before!! Once. For about 30 games. You know what else he's done before? Been crap. The 30 game purple patch he had is the exception. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 52 minutes ago, Avcol said: Totally agree, players like Bellamy had that animal within them and he was a real pest to the opposition defence. If Hogan isn't scoring, which he isn't and hasn't been since he arrived, he is offering absolutely nothing. Our players do too. Pussy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I think we need to cut our losses with him ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I was excited that Smith could find his previous form, but I think he is just a one season wonder. What a waste. He didn't even aggressively press which was one of the few things he brought last season. Maybe try to do a straight swap with Brentford for Maupay or Sawyers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I think we need to cut our losses with him ASAP. We would struggle to get a third of what we paid for him - huge disappointment , has had enough chances now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 The problem we have is a lot of players like Hogan we’ve signed over the past few years that are on big wages. They are not going to get anywhere near that at another club. So the only way we can actually sell them is if they have a massive desire to play football and will take a big wage cut. It’s unlikely to happen. So we’re stuck with them until their contracts run down im afraid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Czechlad said: I was excited that Smith could find his previous form, but I think he is just a one season wonder. What a waste. He didn't even aggressively press which was one of the few things he brought last season. Maybe try to do a straight swap with Brentford for Maupay or Sawyers? Why would Brentford do a straight swap for one of the leagues top scorers in exchange for someone who can’t score in a brothel ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Eastie said: We would struggle to get a third of what we paid for him - huge disappointment , has had enough chances now . When I think about it I don’t think we’ll even get that. He won’t leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I've always tried to defend him during his time here, mainly because he never gets a run in the team, or because of the tactics we were playing under the previous manager. But it's very hard to defend his performance today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Skruff said: Davies or Kodjia infront of him any day of the week. I reckon the tea lady is ahead of him now after that performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 5, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 5, 2019 Slow of thought and slow of mind. The one consolation of today is that Smith would need to be blind as a bat not to have seen it - he has to be behind both Kodjia and Davis now in terms of our forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) Wow he was so bad. How long we stuck with him for? Edited January 5, 2019 by mikeyp102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Loan him out. He needs a lot of game time if he's ever going look anything remotely like what he used to(before joining us). Loan out, sell in the summer. He might do well with fresh start. However it's obvious it's not going to be with Aston Villa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) Did he play up front at Brentford on his own ? Have no idea but I feel a bit sorry for a few of them today as in ohare and Hogan. Playing a soft midfield who won pretty much nothing and expecting to put in a mega performance, don't make as Many changes and only introduce 1 or 2 changes at a time to give players coming in a chance Players like adomah were absolute shite today, lazy, inept and lacking any sort of effort. Add that to 2 players trying too hard when the ball comes near them then it just gets worse. He was not good today nor was ohare, both suffered from a powderpuff midfield who couldn't do basic pass and move. Get the ball less so try harder to do something when they got it and mess it up most of the time. Edited January 5, 2019 by brummybloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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