trekka Posted August 15, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: If we win tonight how many of you will then decide Bruce should be given time? Well that depends on the nature of the win surely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 It will change nothing for me. Unless we somehow win 6 - 0 and play like Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: If we win tonight how many of you will then decide Bruce should be given time? First 7/8 games of the season he gets for me. Then we see. If there is no sign of wins, or playing actual football then we probably going to go through the same (what seems like a never ending cycle) process of looking for a new manager, hiring someone with mixed reception, and then we kinda of know how it's gone for the last few years. It's genuinely tiring as a supporter. i am desperate for Bruce to start getting results and pulling us up the table and mounting a challenge but it's so hard to see happening. Then I think look at his track record of having teams promoted from this league. He's got a crack at it, a big club. That's us, we are his crack at a big club. He will know more than anyone that thisis his chance. He's dropped Gabby and Hutton for tonight's game. I firmly believe he is aware of some of the things said about our players on internet message boards. Edited August 15, 2017 by Killeen30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: If we win tonight how many of you will then decide Bruce should be given time? It would solely depend on the manner of the win in my view, if it were to come. Haven't we had these false dawns before though? We scraped 6 or 7 wins back to back last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Killeen30 said: First 7/8 games of the season he gets for me. Overall I agree with your point but I worry that this amount of games under Bruce would be enough to eradicate our promotion hopes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 18 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: If we win tonight how many of you will then decide Bruce should be given time? As @trekka and @JAMAICAN-VILLAN have said, it's the nature of the win. If we win the next three games with scrappy 1-0's and defensive football, all he is doing is prolonging the inevitable. He'd still be one performance like Cardiff away from the sack IMO. I know this sounds wafty and massively open to interpretation, but we need to win in a certain way. Fans need to be leaving the ground saying "blimey we deserved that today, could have had 5/6" not "how lucky were we to win 1-0, if they hadn't missed those two good chances..." If he could rack up 5 or 6 genuinely decent performances on the spin and get the results, we'll be in a much better place all round. I've been knocked sideways by his 2nd half decision making against Hull and the entire shitshow that was the Cardiff game, but I'd still love it if he pulled a miracle out of the bag and turned it around. I'm not holding my breath though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 He doesn't get any more time from me, not a single match more. The man has been reduced to guessing rather than knowing, and he's even admitted that. He's holding Villa back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted August 15, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, wazzap24 said: As @trekka and @JAMAICAN-VILLAN have said, it's the nature of the win. If we win the next three games with scrappy 1-0's and defensive football, all he is doing is prolonging the inevitable. He'd still be one performance like Cardiff away from the sack IMO. I know this sounds wafty and massively open to interpretation, but we need to win in a certain way. Fans need to be leaving the ground saying "blimey we deserved that today, could have had 5/6" not "how lucky were we to win 1-0, if they hadn't missed those two good chances..." If he could rack up 5 or 6 genuinely decent performances on the spin and get the results, we'll be in a much better place all round. I've been knocked sideways by his 2nd half decision making against Hull and the entire shitshow that was the Cardiff game, but I'd still love it if he pulled a miracle out of the bag and turned it around. I'm not holding my breath though. I agree with this. Last season we showed glimpses of what we could be like - ruthless on the ball and showing the league who we are. Then there were the awful times we struggled to keep up play in any shape or form, nicking a win here, a point there. We've come into this season as favourites (or so some have said) and to find ourselves looking like we haven't yet "got it" or - even worse - gone backwards with embarrassing displays is something which worries me a great deal. Bruce needs to show now why we've got him as manager, why he was given money to spend and why teams should fear us. At the moment, we've got neither of those things and it needs to be rectified (and fast). Edited August 15, 2017 by trekka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 24 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Overall I agree with your point but I worry that this amount of games under Bruce would be enough to eradicate our promotion hopes We all worry man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 He's picked Hourihane!! BRUCE IN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 15, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Dave J said: He's not - we just would like to see him gain minutes for the first team ? And he will. Just because he's not involved tonight doesn't suddenly mean he's out forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 by the sounds of it this is worse than Cardiff performance wise How is that even possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I have never seen a manager with such relative riches serve up such absolute tripe. It actually makes me question his sanity to be honest. How anyone can take this team, these players, and serve up this is actually impressive in a way. How you can get players with this experience or talent and make them go out and go against all of their ability and just hoof the ball is an art in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: by the sounds of it this is worse than Cardiff performance wise How is that even possible It's not. Yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 He simply has to go, even if we fluke a result tonight. We can't play like this and expect any success. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: I have never seen a manager with such relative riches serve up such absolute tripe. It actually makes me question his sanity to be honest. How anyone can take this team, these players, and serve up this is actually impressive in a way. How you can get players with this experience or talent and make them go out and go against all of their ability and just hoof the ball is an art in itself. He did the same at Sunderland he spent so much money on crap which was hidden by Darren Bent's goals. Replace Bent with Kodjia and its not too dissimilar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted August 15, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 15, 2017 I was on the fence at the start of the season, but I've just hopped off it. Steve Bruce is on the other side to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 What the hell has he actually done this summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Thing is, will the dr see a draw with reading as a good result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I want the gutless turd gone, and I want him gone tonight. Win, lose or draw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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