Demitri_C Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 11 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Wagner sounds and looks impressive from the start Huddlesfield have had but it would be a big gamble. I'm not sure we can afford a gamble right now. This is it for me. Wagner looks excellent but has never managed a club eith such high expectations. We need someone that can handle that kind of pressure. Bruce as much as i dont like him has that experience therefore id give him a two year deal as hughton and rowett seem not of interest to mr xia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 17 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: This is it for me. Wagner looks excellent but has never managed a club eith such high expectations. We need someone that can handle that kind of pressure. Bruce as much as i dont like him has that experience therefore id give him a two year deal as hughton and rowett seem not of interest to mr xia but also.. Bruce isnt guaranteed success either. No reason why Wagner cant get us promoted this season either. The players are there. We talk about stability.. but we will want Bruce gone once he gets us promoted.. then we start again? Be better with Wagner.. even if it is another season in the Championship? Tough call for the Doc. I can see both sides of the argument. I guess DR really needs to find out in detail.. what the manager can actually bring NOW to the players to improve performances. Also the staff... Bruce is free and likely to use the current staff... Wagner will want his own men that he has at Huddersfield and Borussia Dortmund II. I am starting to sway to Wagner. However, in an hours time.. my head will sway back to a more proven Bruce. Really tough call. I hope he has all the advisors he has access to. Do not consult Sir Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 19 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: This is it for me. Wagner looks excellent but has never managed a club eith such high expectations. We need someone that can handle that kind of pressure. Bruce as much as i dont like him has that experience therefore id give him a two year deal as hughton and rowett seem not of interest to mr xia While Bruce is experienced as manager he's only managed at small clubs, with not that big pressure either I assume. His biggest job was probably Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 1 minute ago, sne said: While Bruce is experienced as manager he's only managed at small clubs, with not that big pressure either I assume. His biggest job was probably Sunderland. We aren't even in the PL so he might be alright in that case. We are a small club. He has done it time and time again in this league. He's the only logical appointment at this point for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam3773 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 So Wagner or a choice between potato and bread. Can't say I'm hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Not saying I'm For or Against Wagner ( though perplexed by his rapid elevation to hero status by some ) but wasn't his stroke of genius against the now derided RDM to get a point by a fluffed clearance bouncing in off some chubby blokes gut ? Football, eh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, terrytini said: Not saying I'm For or Against Wagner ( though perplexed by his rapid elevation to hero status by some ) but wasn't his stroke of genius against the now derided RDM to get a point by a fluffed clearance bouncing in off some chubby blokes gut ? Football, eh ? Good sub if you ask me! Didnt he just get on the field? Disregard our game.. he has got results and quite a few 1-0 wins.. which we have failed to do on so many occasions. Tactically he looks the goods. I think the fact that he worked closely with Klopp.. is that he is a mini Klopp and would play/coach in a similar style. Which appears to be working at Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnmacf Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Can't see that Wagner would want to come to be honest. He's established a good working relationship with his own team at Huddersfield which is getting results. Why would he leave that for a side which is struggling in 19th? Steve Bruce is the far more obvious choice. He's used to the concept of a challenge and the requirement for short term results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, terrytini said: Not saying I'm For or Against Wagner ( though perplexed by his rapid elevation to hero status by some ) but wasn't his stroke of genius against the now derided RDM to get a point by a fluffed clearance bouncing in off some chubby blokes gut ? Football, eh ? To be fair I thought his stroke of genius was knowing that we'd played 2 games in 3 days with the same starting 11 and a very poor bench and he went with riding out the storm for an hour before bringing on 2 pacey wingers and ripping our tiring team to shreds if you can't see the tactical changes he made in the game vs us and how it changed the game to our dominance to their dominance then I can't help you but it was a massive swing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Just now, dnmacf said: Can't see that Wagner would want to come to be honest. He's established a good working relationship with his own team at Huddersfield which is getting results. Why would he leave that for a side which is struggling in 19th? Steve Bruce is the far more obvious choice. He's used to the concept of a challenge and the requirement for short term results. I get that... however.. money talks. Not only that.. say he does get promoted.. Huddersfield will find it tough to stay up and compete.. be similar to Bournemouth. With Villa.. if he can get us up.. Tony Xia will back him to compete on a much higher level. Bigger crowds.. better facilities. Yes.. short term hes better off staying.. long term he is better off joining Villa. I think it will come down to how confident he is in our current roster.. are we too far behind to catch up? Whether he believes he can do it or not as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 1 minute ago, dnmacf said: Can't see that Wagner would want to come to be honest. He's established a good working relationship with his own team at Huddersfield which is getting results. Why would he leave that for a side which is struggling in 19th? Really? Even in the current state Aston Villa >>> Huddersfield. He'd jump at the chance, as would Rowett, Dean Smith, etc. Not sure if any of these would be the right choice, but I have no doubt they're all attainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Wagner is more exciting, Bruce has the experience. Though if experience is so important, wouldn't it be great if we could find a manager who had experience of taking a team that was relegated from the PL and motivating them to finish 2nd behind Newcastle? Because there is one available. Also, where did the monthly optimism thread go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Can't believe so many people want Wagner who to me is just current flavour of the month. Yet people are overlooking Rowett 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted October 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2016 Big Sam..... get it done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Wagner sounds very interesting and a modern thinking manager. Wagner is also currently doing well with Huddersfield. But, that talk of a high pressing game just doesn't seem to fit with these Villa players. These are players that appear to be hanging out of their arses after am hour and have frequently switched off after 80 minutes. Asking them to play that high pressing game will leave us needing 10 subs at half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrUnKeNbUm Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Big Sam or Bruce are decent appointments. But personally I wold like Rowett. He has been brilliant for the knuckle draggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 5 hours ago, Johnnyp said: Interesting piece in the brum mail from rowett about wagner, said huddersfield were the most drilled/organised side he's come up against. When they pushed up and tried to press them, the huddersfield backs calmly passed the ball out of defence. Whilst I'm not against Wagner, he would be a serious risk, especially without a pre season. Let's not forget, when we played Huddersfield, we should've been 4-0 at half time, they didn't look so organised then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Wagner seems like the kind of manager with a philosophy. A way of playing with certain types of player which can eventually give a club an identity. Although it's early days if I had to describe Huddersfield I can already say the seem organised and like to play football. This is something has been taught. Bruce's teams on the other hand have always been functional results orientated teams with no real identity. Which has always be great getting teams promoted but then struggled from there. Do you get it now? Woosh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Bring Sherwood back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Still Steve Bruce for me. I had no idea who Wagner is until 48 hours ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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