Genie Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 34 minutes ago, DrUnKeNbUm said: Big Sam or Bruce are decent appointments. But personally I wold like Rowett. He has been brilliant for the knuckle draggers I make it 2 10th place finishes. Not my personal idea of brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 10 hours ago, sidcow said: Why? He's been promoted from this league on 4 occasions with 2 different teams the last time being this year. He's actually the stand out manager for me and the nearest thing we could get for a dead cert to get us back up again It amazes me that people don't rate him. People seem to think we can get managers who are way out of our league or seem to prefer unknown foreign managers or once again young inexperienced managers who are going OK for this season but are probably just the next flash in the pan who will be out of their depth and out of experience when at a big club under pressure when things are not going right. It's been years since we have had a manager with several years experience under his belt and that is what I want. If the money keeps comming any half decent manager should be able to take us up and Bruce has proved he can do that over and over again. To not want him is cutting off your nose to spite your face, he's unquestionably he the most suitable man for the job. I don't see Steve Bruce as someone capable of turning this ship around. There is more chance of him sinking it further than turning it around. If it means throwing a huge amount at a manager 'out of our league' but an infinitely better option like Hiddink or Bielsa, we should do it. Otherwise there are plenty of possible candidates who offer a better chance of promotion and long term success than Steve Bruce. Francesco Guidolin is a standout candidate and one we shouldn't ignore assuming he is interested and we are serious about steadying the ship and pushing on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 4, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Genie said: I make it 2 10th place finishes. Not my personal idea of brilliant. Taken out of context that doesn't sound impressive, in context it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Michael118 said: I don't see Steve Bruce as someone capable of turning this ship around. There is more chance of him sinking it further than turning it around. If it means throwing a huge amount at a manager 'out of our league' but an infinitely better option like Hiddink or Bielsa, we should do it. Otherwise there are plenty of possible candidates who offer a better chance of promotion and long term success than Steve Bruce. Francesco Guidolin is a standout candidate and one we shouldn't ignore assuming he is interested and we are serious about steadying the ship and pushing on. #deluded 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Just now, Genie said: #deluded #wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 There has to be a reason why Steve Bruce has never been touted for one of the top jobs. He's a manager for clubs that specialise is yoyoing between the top 2 divisions. I hope that Dr X ambitions are loftier than this and he goes for the more dynamic, young and riskier Wagner. Perhaps there are parallels between his last appointment: Bruce = Pearson Wagner = RDM Come on Tone, do the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 1 minute ago, AstonMartin82 said: There has to be a reason why Steve Bruce has never been touted for one of the top jobs. apart from being interviewed for the England job in the summer you mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 4, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Michael118 said: I don't see Steve Bruce as someone capable of turning this ship around. There is more chance of him sinking it further than turning it around. If it means throwing a huge amount at a manager 'out of our league' but an infinitely better option like Hiddink or Bielsa, we should do it. Otherwise there are plenty of possible candidates who offer a better chance of promotion and long term success than Steve Bruce. Francesco Guidolin is a standout candidate and one we shouldn't ignore assuming he is interested and we are serious about steadying the ship and pushing on. Actually Steve Bruce's record would indicate the absolute opposite is true. I can understand why some wouldn't want him, quite aside from the Blues thing, but let's not misrepresent his career as that of someone unable to turn around struggling clubs because it doesn't my withstand even the most basic of scrutiny. There are certainly not 'plenty' of other candidates that offer a better chance of promotion. There might be bigger, more exciting and glamours names out there and they may well be better than Bruce but they don't have his promotion track record. I can't really see why Guidolin is a stand out candidate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2016 12 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Bring Sherwood back. Im not a fan of suicide to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: I can't really see why Guidolin is a stand out candidate. Me neither Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 We need a man for now and the future not for yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, Genie said: apart from being interviewed for the England job in the summer you mean I thought someone would bring this up... So he was close to getting the job a couple of months ago and is now no where near getting it. Suggests he was used as a red herring to make the whole interview process look fair and competitive. It was always Allardyce's from the start and he was never a serious consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I'm at a loss why people are saying they wouldn't want the local, experienced, respected manager with success in taking clubs from exactly where we are to exactly where we want to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Probably because people are absolutely sick to the back teeth of boring football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Don't know who I would be happy with but going after the flavour of the month in Wagner seems too much of a risk for us at the moment. He maybe talented long term and I'd regret it but at the moment we need stability and I think someone with good experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, Woodytom said: Probably because people are absolutely sick to the back teeth of losing football matches Fixed for your convienence 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I look at Steve Bruce's time at Sunderland (another club is a s**shower of a state) and see how he performed under those sort of circumstances. His time at Sunderland was not a success, that coupled with the fact, I wouldn't want to let him loose in the transfer market for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Fixed for your convienence Not necessarily. I obviously prefer winning football matches but it's been so drab for so long. Steve Bruce us just so boring. Not only that but we would have to listen to that 'feel sorry for me' Newcastle accent of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 15 minutes ago, Richard said: We need a man for now and the future not for yesterday Don't quite agree; we need a man for now. I don't think anyone is excited at the prospect of Steve Bruce, but when it comes down to it his record is pretty damn good at this level. We want promotion, he's attained it four times with different clubs. If there are better, realistic and attainable targets out there then I'm all ears, but I can't think of many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I think if silence from wagner continues today - then we are in for him and he hasn't said 'no'. I wonder if Brian Little has any input into the choice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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