TrentVilla Posted July 24, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, villan-scott said: I hope not!! If there is a fee and they pick up the wages I'm fine with it, happy even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 24, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2017 Sunderland will have gagillions of relegation money. Buy him or sod off 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) Why loan a player to your possible promotion rivals? I don't buy the they are not promotion candidates theory. Underestimate other teams at your own peril. Who cares if Sunderland are in a mess and somehow can't afford a transfer fee up front instead of a loan despite receiving a massive parachute payment.... Boohoo are we doing other teams favors now? Please tell me the club will at least put a clause in where he can't play against us and that they are paying 100% of his wages with a future fee agreed. Edited July 24, 2017 by AshVilla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Sunderland are in a complete mess at the moment and I imagine they won't be investing in players much at all this season. Grayson to give them a solid season to build upon next year, by which time I imagine the owner will hope he has got rid of the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 hour ago, mikeyp102 said: Xia is no mug. Any deal we get will be in our best interests. I agree the Doc will get the best deal available, but it'll still be a shafting. I can't imagine we'd get enough in loan fees and wage payments to cover the depreciation over his contract. If we are going to take a hit I'd rather try and sell him now. Goals are a valuable commodity, there must be a team somewhere getting a bit desperate, with £6/7m to spend. It's probably the one I'm most disappointed about, I was delighted when we got him. Thought he'd be a great buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Should be afforded more opportunity to show his worth - clearly the most intelligent forward thinking attacking player we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 After all that's gone between him and the club & manager, plus the fact that he has never put in any sort of performance for us, I just can't see him getting back into the squad. Sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Should be afforded more opportunity to show his worth - clearly the most intelligent forward thinking attacking player we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Let's remember we massively overpaid for him at his age...players like Hogan and Kodjia in their mid 20s at least have resale value if things don't work out...McCormack at pretty much 30 dosen't so I'd say 4m for him is pretty good going and based on his previous reputation at Leeds and Fulham which might be distant glory days now. It all adds up...3m for Sanchez, 7m for McCormack and Elphick, 5m for Veretout (has he actually left). If Amavi had left that would've been 25m for those five players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Trust Bruce with this. Done nothing here or at Forest so if a loan where they pick up some wages is all we can get I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 25 minutes ago, NoelVilla said: Trust Bruce with this. Done nothing here or at Forest so if a loan where they pick up some wages is all we can get I'll take it. Yes seems waste to me when he was a player that had a proven goal scoring record but obviously theres other things going on and his face never fitted under Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Should be afforded more opportunity to show his worth - clearly the most intelligent forward thinking attacking player we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Should be afforded more opportunity to show his worth - clearly the most intelligent forward thinking attacking player we have. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Another 12 month loan to dwindle his transfer value down further. Just like Darren Bent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Dave J said: Should be afforded more opportunity to show his worth - clearly the most intelligent forward thinking attacking player we have. Couldn't agree more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post skarroki Posted July 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: Should be afforded more opportunity to show his worth - clearly the most intelligent forward thinking attacking player we have. A very good point that I feel is well worth repeating 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 7 hours ago, AshVilla said: Why loan a player to your possible promotion rivals? I don't buy the they are not promotion candidates theory. Underestimate other teams at your own peril. Who cares if Sunderland are in a mess and somehow can't afford a transfer fee up front instead of a loan despite receiving a massive parachute payment.... Boohoo are we doing other teams favors now? Please tell me the club will at least put a clause in where he can't play against us and that they are paying 100% of his wages with a future fee agreed. A loaned player has never been able to play against the parent club. This runs deeper that football matters. Mental health the issue. Hope he recovers for his families sake. I also don't get this promotion rival stuff. Every rival is going to have a striker, whether is comes from us or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Everyone knows Ross is not going to have a 20 goal season again. Even Sunderland are cautious if this is just a loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 49 minutes ago, Jareth said: Everyone knows Ross is not going to have a 20 goal season again. Even Sunderland are cautious if this is just a loan. Exactly they don't want to spend 7m and big wages if he has a hopeless season like last. Was hoping holloway would come in after talking about his much he rates him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villatillidie1980 Posted July 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 25, 2017 I'd be happy for him to stay, playing in a squad with more confidence may bring the best out of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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