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Paul off Facebook has a mate who runs the dog and doublet and he reckons Mary's (the barmaid) boyfriend,  the bricklayer, has seen plans for a new stadium at the side of BMH. With transport links into Kingsbury and Coleshill! 

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32 minutes ago, tinker said:

Paul off Facebook has a mate who runs the dog and doublet and he reckons Mary's (the barmaid) boyfriend,  the bricklayer, has seen plans for a new stadium at the side of BMH. With transport links into Kingsbury and Coleshill! 

"....stop me if you've heard this one before."

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Probably a no go but couldn’t we join up the bottom tier to the middle tier by filling in the walkway and adding additional rows/seats?  Basically making one large lower tier. Does the walkway have to remain for health and safety reasons? 

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12 hours ago, Pongo Waring said:

A very close friend of mine who eat at the same restaurant as the senior figures at the club in Lille, heard whispers from across the table that they're looking for sites to build the new stadium.

 

Why would we care if Lille are looking for a new stadium location?

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43 minutes ago, ferguson1 said:


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Probably a no go but couldn’t we join up the bottom tier to the middle tier by filling in the walkway and adding additional rows/seats?  Basically making one large lower tier. Does the walkway have to remain for health and safety reasons? 

Isn't that basically what they're doing as part of this 3,000 extra seats plan? Sure I read that somewhere. 

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One thing's clear. We have seriously ambitious people in charge. I honestly think all bets are off in terms of the expertise we have that's why I am talking in terms of redeveloping Witton Lane or doing some sort of deal on property land. This isn't Doug Ellis, this is something of an entirely different level.

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28 minutes ago, sidcow said:

Isn't that basically what they're doing as part of this 3,000 extra seats plan? Sure I read that somewhere. 


No idea and hadn’t seen anything official re that area.  Many thanks for confirming though if that’s the case 👍

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1 hour ago, ferguson1 said:


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Probably a no go but couldn’t we join up the bottom tier to the middle tier by filling in the walkway and adding additional rows/seats?  Basically making one large lower tier. Does the walkway have to remain for health and safety reasons? 

Rangers are implementing something similar at Ibrox. I am guessing this seating bowl plan at VP - could mean lower tiers having more accessibility areas and the upper tier will expand to replace lost seating.

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2 hours ago, limpid said:

It was built by a cheap arse. It won't have capacity to add more weight.

It would’nt need to carry any more weight as with the new main stand at Anfield the additional tier and new roof would be constructed behind then joined to the stand once the old roof was removed. No need to reduce capacity whilst the work was going on. 
 

I think it’s a more realistic solution long term than moving grounds to get Villa park to over 60k 

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1 hour ago, ferguson1 said:


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Probably a no go but couldn’t we join up the bottom tier to the middle tier by filling in the walkway and adding additional rows/seats?  Basically making one large lower tier. Does the walkway have to remain for health and safety reasons? 

If you look at the plans for redevelopment of the north stand, the corner which was adjoin it didn’t have the walkway and had an additional 6 rows of seats in comparison to the rest of the lower tier. Certain sections would need to be retained for disabled fans but not the whole length. 

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2 hours ago, VillaJ100 said:

It's remote you'd get any portion of the historic park delisted also

You wouldn’t be encroaching into the park by more than 20sq metres … Relocate any trees which would be in the way, contribute to improvements to the park and I’m sure the council would oblige. 

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10 minutes ago, thabucks said:

It would’nt need to carry any more weight as with the new main stand at Anfield the additional tier and new roof would be constructed behind then joined to the stand once the old roof was removed. No need to reduce capacity whilst the work was going on. 
 

I think it’s a more realistic solution long term than moving grounds to get Villa park to over 60k 

How could you build behind the Trinity? Probably easier to get a CPO on the Witton Lane side than consent to build in the park.

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1 hour ago, Captain_Townsend said:

One thing's clear. We have seriously ambitious people in charge. I honestly think all bets are off in terms of the expertise we have that's why I am talking in terms of redeveloping Witton Lane or doing some sort of deal on property land. This isn't Doug Ellis, this is something of an entirely different level.

Its a new ground, question is where and how, could be Aston, Marston Green or Castle Vale, Minworth , BMH .

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52 minutes ago, thabucks said:

You wouldn’t be encroaching into the park by more than 20sq metres … Relocate any trees which would be in the way, contribute to improvements to the park and I’m sure the council would oblige. 

Wouldn't just be the council you have to convince it would be Historic England 

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20 hours ago, Jareth said:

If I lived that close to VP and knew what the plans were, I would wait for the neighbours to sell and hold out to the last to extract maximum money. I can't see it happening for that reason. It's so unpredictable and could take decades.

Which is the point of a CPO. To prevent essentially black mail like this. Personally I have no issues with a CPO as long as everyone is getting fair value. Have an independent appraiser come in and evaluate each house, then give 10% extra for the hassle. 

Ultimately a Villa redevelopment would be what is best for the area if it included a series of nice apartments, a shopping district, bars/restaurants/hotels and revamped public transport links. 

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1 hour ago, limpid said:

How could you build behind the Trinity? Probably easier to get a CPO on the Witton Lane side than consent to build in the park.

Rudimentary sketch of the amount of parkland required … you’d need to cpo a bunch of houses to negate right to light issues also. 

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7 minutes ago, thabucks said:

Rudimentary sketch of the amount of parkland required … you’d need to cpo a bunch of houses to negate right to light issues also. 

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Dont we need to get rid of the Trinity Road as well?

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48 minutes ago, thabucks said:

Rudimentary sketch of the amount of parkland required … you’d need to cpo a bunch of houses to negate right to light issues also. 

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The three (ish) pillars placed on the park side of the road cost us the all weather area in the bottom left as well as the building and play areas you now whnt to knock down. We'd also need to CPO at least 12 properties in Nelson Road to maintain access around the ground (probably more). We would need to reroute the Trinity Road and possibly close one end of Nelson Road..

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7 hours ago, ferguson1 said:


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Probably a no go but couldn’t we join up the bottom tier to the middle tier by filling in the walkway and adding additional rows/seats?  Basically making one large lower tier. Does the walkway have to remain for health and safety reasons? 

That walkway is the only route to get to the lower tier seats though isn't it? We sit front row B7 for most games, that's the disabled section right in front of us and the only route to the vomitory from the front 12 ish rows I believe

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21 hours ago, MotoMkali said:

Which is the point of a CPO. To prevent essentially black mail like this. Personally I have no issues with a CPO as long as everyone is getting fair value. Have an independent appraiser come in and evaluate each house, then give 10% extra for the hassle. 

Ultimately a Villa redevelopment would be what is best for the area if it included a series of nice apartments, a shopping district, bars/restaurants/hotels and revamped public transport links. 

So someone says to you, you have to sell your house, which you might be quite happy in, and that's ok?

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