Wainy316 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 ----------------------Gollini--------------- Richards--Elphwick--Baker/Okore----Amavi --------------------Jedinak------------------------ -------------Tshibola----Morrison----------- -----Ayew--------------------Grealish----- ----------------McCormack-------------- Reckon that team would be in with a shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 8, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2016 Must say i like the way the games are coming thick and fast already. Have a crap game...make up for it 3 days later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwishIwasalivein1982 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 19 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: ----------------------Gollini--------------- Richards--Elphwick--Baker/Okore----Amavi --------------------Jedinak------------------------ -------------Tshibola----Morrison----------- -----Ayew--------------------Grealish----- ----------------McCormack-------------- Reckon that team would be in with a shout. Not too keen on Gollini after yesterday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 8, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) Nothing like giving someone a bit of time to settle! Ridiculous! Edited August 8, 2016 by Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted August 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, IwishIwasalivein1982 said: Not too keen on Gollini after yesterday... I thought he was excellent, but sadly made 1 costly mistake. Saw a lot of positives from him. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted August 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2016 Not too keen on a young player, on his debut after one mistake in an otherwise excellent performance? No wonder we're called fickle. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwishIwasalivein1982 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 The mistake plus I only ever saw him punching the ball out instead of catching it. Maybe I'm just fed up with keepers after giving Guzan so much time I don't mind giving him time but I don't think he should be in the starting XI straight away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I didn't see him punch the ball once but did see him catch it several times. Confirmation bias IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Not starting him would be totally detrimental to us and him. He looked comfortably good enough for us, if we buy another keeper based on yesterday then I'll be annoyed at the management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 To be fair, that kind of kicking error happens all the time to better keepers and is very rarely punished. Now if he pulls a Guzan and it happens often then we have an issue. Until then, I'm happy to put it down the bad luck. It was a shit backpass too IIRC. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Just now, dont_do_it_doug. said: To be fair, that kind of kicking error happens all the time to better keepers and is very rarely punished. Now if he pulls a Guzan and it happens often then we have an issue. Until then, I'm happy to put it down the bad luck. It was a shit backpass too IIRC. Also the sequence of events that followed was fluky as anything as well. It was an error, not a total clanger, that was punished because of luck. I'm very comfortable and confident with pierluigi in goal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 8 minutes ago, IwishIwasalivein1982 said: The mistake plus I only ever saw him punching the ball out instead of catching it. Maybe I'm just fed up with keepers after giving Guzan so much time Madness. There was one ball especially that he really had no right to get to and I thought "Here we go again", but he came out and caught it while being fouled. Despite being fouled, managed to keep hold of it. The team as a whole needs to move more. You can't play the ball back to your keeper 100 times a game and him not slice one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Other than that I had supreme confidence in him. Forestieri had a chance not long before that where I genuinely fancied Gollini to win. It's been about 3 years since I felt that way about our keeper. Based on that one game he's big, brave, commanding and has cat like reactions. Was it also his kick that Rudy flicked on for McScoremack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 6 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Also the sequence of events that followed was fluky as anything as well. It was an error, not a total clanger, that was punished because of luck. I'm very comfortable and confident with pierluigi in goal. It was a pretty horrendous mistake to be fair - there's no harm in saying that and I'm sure he'd be the first to admit it himself. Yes it was unfortunate in the way that it was punished but the slice was one of the poorest kicks I've seen from a back pass that was pretty routine to deal and on his favoured side. He didn't look to be under too much pressure either so unsure why he looked quite as rushed as he did. I would question why we felt the need to keep passing it back and forward to him as well to be fair. When he kicked long he seemed to hit Gestede on the majority of occasions and we were picking up quite a few second balls off him as well, including our best chance of the game. Wednesday were pressing so high up the pitch when he passed it out that it never seemed likely for us to get the ball out of our own half without going long anyway. I'm not trying to say this is his fault as they were clearly told to do this but for me it didn't really work. Other than that though I agree. He had an excellent game, made a few top top saves and I'm more than comfortable with him in goal. At his age I'm excited by the potential he has to become a very very good goalkeeper. We may have to accept a few mistakes as part of his development but I feel its worth it as long as they don't become too regular an occurence. Even De Gea had his own issues at United when he first came so I'm more than happy to cut him some slack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 one thing I will say that was refreshing yesterday, except for a comical Wallace dive I think it was actually an honest game. If more teams like that it will be at least enjoyable to watch games of football Fletcher and Elphick perfect example, full blooded and end of it both players shook each others hands even if Fletcher couldnt stay on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 5 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I didn't see him punch the ball once but did see him catch it several times. Confirmation bias IMO. I thought he looked pretty solid all around. He made one error that stands out because of the scoreline, but all in all I was impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 8, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2016 We lost, and no-one's bumped the relegation thread. Seems we're more positive than I believed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 We won the first game of last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I saw a stat, that last season both Burnley and Middlesbrough didn't get their first wins until four games into the season last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 53 minutes ago, useless said: I saw a stat, that last season both Burnley and Middlesbrough didn't get their first wins until four games into the season last year. Boro won their 2nd game of season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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