Jareth Posted May 2, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 2, 2016 Possibly too early but the only target now is promotion. Everything that happens from here on in will influence where we finish next season. There is change afoot at every level of the club and while we do not yet know what chance we have because we don't know who will own us, who will manage us or who will play for us, in the absence of that complete picture, for those of us who want to look forward positively and wipe what has just happened these last 10 months from our minds, and focus on promotion, this thread is for you. Cue instant lock and deletion! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Way to early for a thread like this,we need to finish this season and wait for fixtures/takeover/manager before we even contemplate a thread of this nature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Won't happen! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Way to early for a thread like this,we need to finish this season and wait for fixtures/takeover/manager before we even contemplate a thread of this nature! Indeed... We may still need another relegation thread :-( Hopefully we need this one though :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Too many things need changing at the club it is a complete overhaul required which means, imo, regardless of who what where when the fact that it is everything means promotion next season is highly unlikely 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 If we start next season in our current situation, with a reluctant/absent owner and a mish-mash of professionals and mercenaries then I cannot see us troubling the top third of the table but do not think we'd drop like a stone to League 1 either. There are too many variables that need addressing at the club, the ownership, the management and the squad - all equally important in our push to return to the Prem. The club has one aim next season and that is promotion - but to achieve that, the club has to commit to changing the appalling culture within it from top to bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, Richard said: Too many things need changing at the club it is a complete overhaul required which means, imo, regardless of who what where when the fact that it is everything means promotion next season is highly unlikely Exactly, we are going into an incredibly tough division and will probably have a squad turnover of 15 players out, plus a new manager needs time to get a new team in. i wouldn't expect a top half finish right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 If you offered me tenth right now I'd be inclined to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Won't happen as long as Lerner remains in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Anything other than automatic promotion will be unforgivable for all involved. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Anything other than automatic promotion will be unforgivable for all involved. What so we should refuse to play the play off final? West Ham only went via play offs in 2012 when they should've got top 2 with their eyes closed, haven't done too badly since. Like others, too early to tell. I'll come back to this thread in first week of August as then we'll know who the manager and likely squad is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Move this to 'Other Football' for a few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 2, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 2, 2016 I predict........ A riot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 2, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 2, 2016 Entirely dependant on what happens this summer. We COULD have a very good season. We COULD also completely balls it up. At the moment I think most of us fear the latter more than it's actually likely. But we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: Entirely dependant on what happens this summer. We COULD have a very good season. We COULD also completely balls it up. At the moment I think most of us fear the latter more than it's actually likely. But we'll see. So you're saying it's 50/50 on whether we get promoted or not? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 42 minutes ago, Richard said: Too many things need changing at the club it is a complete overhaul required which means, imo, regardless of who what where when the fact that it is everything means promotion next season is highly unlikely This. To go from the utter shambles we are, to something that resembles a football club in 3 months is a huge ask. I can't see anything other than struggle again at this point. A lot depends on any potential takeover, we will not gain promotion while Randy Lerner is still our "Custodian" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 The players we have at the moment on form are good enough to challenge for promotion. Problem is who will play 110% for us an who will stay. One thing's for sure, if we do drop below half way next season or even bottom 3 (although can't see us ever being relegated again) I would be much more disappointed than being relegated this season and hold the players 100% responsible. Toxic, they would have seen nothing yet. In reality, if we get the team an manager sorted, we should be looking hover around the top 6 all season, if not higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 have you lot seen the Championship? It's not great. Even if things drag on a bit in the summer, I'd still expect us to have a squad capable of targeting the play-offs at least. Still hard to get out of there, but to not go into the season targeting promotion, even with all the insecurities going on is a little pessimistic. But let's see, if we lose every good player and still have Lescott and Gabby here as starting players I'll join in with the doomsmongers. As it is after such a depressing sequence of negativity for months / years, I will cling to absolutely any shred that makes me thing the future will be better. Until those shreds are eviscerated, I'll remain hopeful... for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Rodders said: have you lot seen the Championship? It's not great. Even if things drag on a bit in the summer, I'd still expect us to have a squad capable of targeting the play-offs at least. Still hard to get out of there, but to not go into the season targeting promotion, even with all the insecurities going on is a little pessimistic. But let's see, if we lose every good player and still have Lescott and Gabby here as starting players I'll join in with the doomsmongers. As it is after such a depressing sequence of negativity for months / years, I will cling to absolutely any shred that makes me thing the future will be better. Until those shreds are eviscerated, I'll remain hopeful... for now. I agree with this. The Championship is hard, but only because players and teams graft. The quality is not really there as it is in the Premiership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 We have as much chance of gaining promotion in 2017/8 as I have of travelling to the moon. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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