Daweii Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: This keeps coming up, but AGAIN, in his interview afterwards, he said we had a bright future and he hopes the sale is concluded quickly! They even said that it was due to Lerner tearing them a new asshole over email or some shit. If it was down to the Xia thing their issues would be with Hollis initially as he would have been dealing with him day to day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanO Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I warned my nose mates not to believe a word from CY as I have a mate who has done business with the Chinese for many years. He still struggles with them as they will tell you what they believe you want to hear but do exactly what they want which can be the opposite of what you need. My initial euphoria that Lerner was gone has now been replaced by "oh ****". I hope it's just a little confusion and that once it's sorted this guy really does have our best interest at heart but my words to the noses all those years ago are now screaming loud in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Says "Guinness" on the side of a bus, but they don't sell it!.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted May 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 21, 2016 The FT are reporting Recon only own one of the 5 business they were reported to own and that business makes a loss of £60-70m a year selling MSG. Time will tell but I think this deal will fail and I really hope it does, the misinformation given out and now removed from the OS is more than worrying . Off to work under yet another Lerner inspired villa black cloud . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted May 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) I don't like this. Too much misinformation and too little transparency regarding the transaction, its' funding and new owner's background. I also don't like the basic idea of Xia's that Villa is a mascot for a greater cause of lifting the level of Chinese football. Edited May 21, 2016 by AVTuco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Lerner made the judgement that Tony was the right man to sell to. On that basis I suggest we should all be very worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2016 The problem with my insomnia is that I have to go through the full regurgitation of the same turgid statements on VT as I have it permanently open. Mostly sensationalism with little else to go on but the need to expect it all to come crashing down. Read back through the thread. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 It's a case of wait and see for me, I'm leaning more towards blaming the club for the misinformation on the OS it's not the first time they have done something like this, either way the football league and the premier league will be looking very closely at this which might seem like nonsense but the fact both are doing it suggests they will take it seriously as they don't want another Pompey. I'd imagine the football league might be less lenient however I very much doubt the premier league will be. So I'm really not concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I don't really get this issue with the whole "misinformation" thing. What would Xia/Recon be looking to achieve by lying about owning 5 listed companies when actually they're only in the process of buying 5 listed companies?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 what has actually happened? im struggling to keep up. is the deal on/off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) Edit - wrong thread. Edited May 21, 2016 by GENTLEMAN Wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 1 minute ago, GENTLEMAN said: Samuelson at Reading. I've got better things to be doing than sitting through 26 minutes worth of a Reading press conference from 2 years ago. What are you trying to show us here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villafan306 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, Uncle Albert said: what has actually happened? im struggling to keep up. is the deal on/off The deal is very much on subject to a fit and proper persons test by the Premier League (as we are currently still in it) and the football league (as we are heading there). Not much is known about Xia wealth or actual business interests - this will all be disclosed during these tests. The tests are no different to the ones any new owner would take but as the Chinese people's business details are not readily available in the public domain, panic is setting in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, SeanO said: I warned my nose mates not to believe a word from CY as I have a mate who has done business with the Chinese for many years. He still struggles with them as they will tell you what they believe you want to hear but do exactly what they want which can be the opposite of what you need. My initial euphoria that Lerner was gone has now been replaced by "oh fu ck". I hope it's just a little confusion and that once it's sorted this guy really does have our best interest at heart but my words to the noses all those years ago are now screaming loud in my head. one bad experience and you taint a whole nation. The company I work for has worked with the Chinese for 15 years, they have helped us triple the businesses turnover and they cant do enough for us. I personally have been dealing with our Chinese suppliers for 5 years on a daily basis, their commitment to get the job done day or middle of the night is brilliant. I have emailed my contacts there asking if they know anything about our new owner. Edited May 21, 2016 by AndyC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 The FT are reporting Recon only own one of the 5 business they were reported to own and that business makes a loss of £60-70m a year selling MSG. Time will tell but I think this deal will fail and I really hope it does, the misinformation given out and now removed from the OS is more than worrying . Off to work under yet another Lerner inspired villa black cloud . I think that's wrong, or you're reading it wrong. Recon own many, many companies, I believe. The incorrect information is that the OS said they own 5 companies listed on the Hong Kong stock exchange, whereas it's actually 1. (But it's also been said that they're in the process of buying 4 companies of that nature). If that is the main error, then it sounds like a simple misunderstanding to me. Villa have been told that Recon owns this, that and the other, and no doubt we've ballsed up the translation and misread 'soon to own 5 companies on the HK stock exchange'. The bigger concern is the possible involvement of Samuelson (and yet it still doesn't prove ANY wrongdoing on his, Xia's or Villa's parts). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, villafan306 said: The deal is very much on subject to a fit and proper persons test by the Premier League (as we are currently still in it) and the football league (as we are heading there). Not much is known about Xia wealth or actual business interests - this will all be disclosed during these tests. The tests are no different to the ones any new owner would take but as the Chinese people's business details are not readily available in the public domain, panic is setting in. thanks. lets just hope all is above board and we can get it over the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rubberman Posted May 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2016 28 minutes ago, Rob182 said: I think that's wrong, or you're reading it wrong. Recon own many, many companies, I believe. The incorrect information is that the OS said they own 5 companies listed on the Hong Kong stock exchange, whereas it's actually 1. (But it's also been said that they're in the process of buying 4 companies of that nature). If that is the main error, then it sounds like a simple misunderstanding to me. Villa have been told that Recon owns this, that and the other, and no doubt we've ballsed up the translation and misread 'soon to own 5 companies on the HK stock exchange'. The bigger concern is the possible involvement of Samuelson (and yet it still doesn't prove ANY wrongdoing on his, Xia's or Villa's parts). Given they were unable to get our last manager's name right to welcome him, I wouldn't put anything past the OS. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Why didn't we just take the easy route and accept Ellison's bid Was he not rich enough or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ingram85 Posted May 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2016 I don't know if I should be genuinely worried about it all or put it down to the FT selling copies and embarrassingly pathetic usual armchair journo's of VT and annoying nerdy little Twitter itk's trying to be all 'look at me' making a mountain again. Either way, we just can't enjoy anything anymore can we. I'm fed up of the negativity, the desire to ruin everything and the pointless need to be the one to break the news first. Who the **** emails a football corporation about this, thinks it will get their attention and is then so self important enough to alert us on here of their dutiful task? **** off you plank. **** me you lot are joy sucking word removeds. Get a **** life you miserable bell ends. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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