TRO Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, lexicon said: Bloody good assist tbf I like the way he deals with the challenges and then uses his underrated footwork, to gain advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, TRO said: I like the way he deals with the challenges and then uses his underrated footwork, to gain advantage. Massively underrated, the people who love to hate him, will see him have a 15 minute cameo, and if he has a poor first touch it's " He has the touch of a donkey " and " Can't even control a ball ". Totally ignoring a multitude of other times he's shown great footwork. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 As others have said, there's a reason he's still at the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I think he'd have made it as a Premier League striker if he was playing in the 90s and early 2000s. He'd be brilliant if he had a strike partner to play with but the style and formations have changed a lot over the years and I think he's just not suited for how a lot of teams want to play these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Forest fans are talking about him being an absolute world beater and the best signing they've made in years. The same goes for Cameron Archer. And here we are, bemoaning the strikers still at our club! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2022 His problem was always he picks up niggly injuries he can't shift and he's not a finisher. If he can stay fit and get a bit more of that striker instinct he'll eat the Championship for breakfast, because his ability with the ball when not striking it and his strength, pace, work ethic and selfless play will break teams apart. It's an if though. It would be great if he can make it, and he barring the 2 question marks against him he probably could do a job in the bottom half of the Prem. He always struck me as being a more dynamic Heskey in the making, I imagine he's great to play off if you're more of a finisher who doesn't want to do the dirty work. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, AndyM3000 said: I think he'd have made it as a Premier League striker if he was playing in the 90s and early 2000s. He'd be brilliant if he had a strike partner to play with but the style and formations have changed a lot over the years and I think he's just not suited for how a lot of teams want to play these days. I get your point, but Ings and Watkins are doing no better and Lukaku, Haaland and Giroud ( who are all 90's style) are still doing their stuff today, not to mention Dzeko. I think, it doesn't matter if you are 6'4 or 5'6......its all about scoring....and finding that way to do it....each has their own Modus Operandi. Each player will find their own way of beating their opponent, whether its by pace, stealth, vision, reading the game, or physicality.....all methods have been used over the years. The present trend ( usually influenced by the top teams) seems to be the false 9 or a more diminuitive player....that doesn't mean it will be the case on going. The better teams have players who can do many things....having a player who can hold the ball up, is great, but on its own is not enough, they have to score a reasonable amount of goals. right now, the criticism of Keinan, could so easily be levelled at Danny and Ollie, because they are not scoring goals either. Edited February 10, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Forest fans are talking about him being an absolute world beater and the best signing they've made in years. The same goes for Cameron Archer. And here we are, bemoaning the strikers still at our club! The quality of defender in the Prem is far superior to the Championship.....when they do it with us, is the time to get excited. However, baby steps......Its great they are at least doing it, and that has to be an excellent sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Christ, this is a busy thread for a player who won't play for Villa again. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Chindie said: His problem was always he picks up niggly injuries he can't shift and he's not a finisher. If he can stay fit and get a bit more of that striker instinct he'll eat the Championship for breakfast, because his ability with the ball when not striking it and his strength, pace, work ethic and selfless play will break teams apart. It's an if though. It would be great if he can make it, and he barring the 2 question marks against him he probably could do a job in the bottom half of the Prem. He always struck me as being a more dynamic Heskey in the making, I imagine he's great to play off if you're more of a finisher who doesn't want to do the dirty work. As you say, staying clear of injuries, is the biggest task. The momentum, he will gain from playing games and in a dynamic side, anything can happen. so far, so good...fingers crossed, he can turn the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 If Keinan Davies is a success at Forest, and I hope he is, then fine, he’s found his level. Where we hope to be, is way above that. Time for him, and us, to move on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, meregreen said: If Keinan Davies is a success at Forest, and I hope he is, then fine, he’s found his level. Where we hope to be, is way above that. Time for him, and us, to move on. I wish the same kind of logic could be applied to our midfield, too. Edited February 10, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, AndyM3000 said: I think he'd have made it as a Premier League striker if he was playing in the 90s and early 2000s. He'd be brilliant if he had a strike partner to play with but the style and formations have changed a lot over the years and I think he's just not suited for how a lot of teams want to play these days. Did players play injured in the 90's and 2000's ? Because injuries, have actually been the biggest problem Keinan has had. He's always gotten injured at a terrible time, opportunity wise for himself. He has pace, power, can play with his back to goal, provide for others etc and good footwork, what is the " non suit " to the way teams want to play these days? The biggest gripe/argument people can make about him, is with regards to his finishing ability, but physically as a footballer, there are little other great arguments IMO. Edited February 10, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 With how we are playing now he would be perfect . Ramsey Coutinho and Buendia playing off Davis would in my biased head be incredible. He would never get bullied out of a game . But then my balanced head gets put back on and there is no way he would be able to play in the prem like he is in the Champ. So the jury is still out but i hope that he turns into our number 9 ( but not at the expense of Archer who would i believe with his fine finishing really thrive on Phil and Emi thru balls . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: With how we are playing now he would be perfect . Ramsey Coutinho and Buendia playing off Davis would in my biased head be incredible. He would never get bullied out of a game . But then my balanced head gets put back on and there is no way he would be able to play in the prem like he is in the Champ. So the jury is still out but i hope that he turns into our number 9 ( but not at the expense of Archer who would i believe with his fine finishing really thrive on Phil and Emi thru balls . Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted February 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2022 If Forest don't go up this season ans Steve Cooper is still over them next season I'd be very happy to send more players their way on loan. Just looking at his record at Swansea and this season with loan players and it is impressive.He had Conor Gallagher in 19/20, Guehi from 19-21 and he got the best out of Brewster to make money for Liverpool. This season he has helped Garner and Davis unleash a lot of potential and has also worked wonders with Spence and Lowe both on loans. He is a very good manager at developing players. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Crazy thought. But Keinan suits our current style of play better than any other forward we have. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 So please for him to get a decent run of games, every time this thread resurfaces i fear the worst. Would gladly swap Davis and Archer on current form for Ings/Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: Crazy thought. But Keinan suits our current style of play better than any other forward we have. I had that thought today too while I was running. He would be an asset right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted February 16, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: Crazy thought. But Keinan suits our current style of play better than any other forward we have. I agree, the ball definitely sticks at him when he gets it rather than bouncing off Watkins nine times out of 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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