Stevo985 Posted August 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: But then if he's not at his best Friday because he's tired what does that do to his confidence and first team chances for the following game. Agreed. It's a fine balance with young players, hence why I wasn't joining in with the criticism of Bruce not playing O'Hare Vs Reading. Rarely do young players play well and then immediately get thrown in as first choice every week. Davis was excellent yesterday but he won't be playing 90 minutes every game now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Agreed. It's a fine balance with young players, hence why I wasn't joining in with the criticism of Bruce not playing O'Hare Vs Reading. Rarely do young players play well and then immediately get thrown in as first choice every week. Davis was excellent yesterday but he won't be playing 90 minutes every game now. O'Hare hasn't even been in the squad. Not playing all the time is fine but to be completely dropped is harsh. Davis won't be a regular, we have kodjia coming back, and Hogan could do with a boost midweek but I'd be very dissappointed if he isn't starting Friday night. After that display it should be his place to lose short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 35 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Agreed. It's a fine balance with young players, hence why I wasn't joining in with the criticism of Bruce not playing O'Hare Vs Reading. Rarely do young players play well and then immediately get thrown in as first choice every week. Davis was excellent yesterday but he won't be playing 90 minutes every game now. I don't see why not, if they're good enough they're old enough. Granted yesterday was the debut so he needs to show that it was the rule and not the exception in terms of performance but man, if yesterday was the rule we've got a serious player on our hands, I just don't think it can be understated (nor should it be overstated for above mentioned reasons) how good he was throughout yesterday and how he provided that link we've been missing. That it resulted in 4 goals against not the worst side we'll play this season is testament. Kick on now kid, you can be the toast of the Holte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockport_Villain Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 7 hours ago, DCJonah said: Surely if anything kodjia and Davis would be the way forward. Personally don't think Kodjia plays in a pair. He is a lone striker who finishes very well but is very poor at creating opportunities for a partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Looked great from the highlights, if he plays like that for the rest of his career he should be top player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tismyk Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Best debut for the first team from the academy since Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2017 4 hours ago, DCJonah said: Will we ever see ..................Davis....................... Grealish......O'Hare.........Green I'd adore this. Would be so good. I say do it with Hourihane and Whelan behind them. Or Whelan and Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, tismyk said: Best debut for the first team from the academy since Barry Being pedantic, but it was his first start not debut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Eastie said: I think he should be able to handle 3 games in a week and if on that form he could tear Wigan apart - give him an hour on Tuesday and the make the change -I pray he starts on Friday and Bruce doesn't bring back gabby . I agree mate. Needs to play Tuesday imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, av1 said: I agree mate. Needs to play Tuesday imo. Disagree he looked knackered at the end Saturday and probably should have come off sooner. Give him a rest and save him for Friday. I can't imagine anyone who played yesterday will play Tuesday if they are going to be playing Friday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnock1984 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Great game, but he's a youngster, he won't do that week in week out so we do need to buy somebody like Gallagher too in my opinion! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2017 Dunno, if we've got youngsters who are performing better than the "mature" players, then why not play them every week? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 33 minutes ago, nnock1984 said: Great game, but he's a youngster, he won't do that week in week out so we do need to buy somebody like Gallagher too in my opinion! If we bought Gallagher then I'd be on board. But loaning him to help progress another player when we have this potential as one of our own would piss me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 27 minutes ago, DCJonah said: If we bought Gallagher then I'd be on board. But loaning him to help progress another player when we have this potential as one of our own would piss me off. As long as we didn't have a clause saying he has to start, he would add great competition to Davis. Could help push Davis to better things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2017 Davis wont be a success this season without competition, every player needs it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 We have kodjia, Hogan, Gabby and RHM and we usually play 1 forward. There's competion and then there's just not getting opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, mikeyp102 said: Disagree he looked knackered at the end Saturday and probably should have come off sooner. Give him a rest and save him for Friday. I can't imagine anyone who played yesterday will play Tuesday if they are going to be playing Friday. Agreed. He was blowing out of his arse. That's not a criticism, it's perfectly natural for someone to be knackered after their first senior 90 minutes. If we hadn't used that extra sub in the first half I'm certain he'd have come off yesterday. I just don't agree with this "OMG he played well he needs to play 90 minutes every week!!!!" Young players need to be eased into the first team. Both physically and mentally. Edited August 20, 2017 by Stevo985 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 5 hours ago, DCJonah said: O'Hare hasn't even been in the squad. Not playing all the time is fine but to be completely dropped is harsh. Davis won't be a regular, we have kodjia coming back, and Hogan could do with a boost midweek but I'd be very dissappointed if he isn't starting Friday night. After that display it should be his place to lose short term. For some reason, this is the go to thought process on young players. To be honest, if he can perform like he did yesterday consistently, it would be a farce for him NOT to be a regular! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 No matter the age if you are good enough you force a manager to play you. Saturday forced Bruce to start him on Friday. Whether he keeps that up time will tell. One thing I will say though is that I think we have exciting things to come from RHM too this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, tismyk said: Best debut for the first team from the academy since Barry Barry came from Brighton. Edited August 20, 2017 by Tommo_b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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