blandy Posted September 2, 2017 Author Moderator Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 hours ago, a m ole said: I refuse to believe this isn't a deleted scene from The Day Today. It's a parody of some sort, definitely. You can see the reality gaps and the joins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, blandy said: It's a parody of some sort, definitely. You can see the reality gaps and the joins. Sounds a bit like that manifesto launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Is this 'Activate' thing a parody or a genuine(ly cringeworthy) 'movement'? They have just come out with an endorsement for that Jacob-Tarquinfarquar-Reece-Muggytits or whatever he's called. #Mongmentum indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 27 minutes ago, wazzap24 said: Is this 'Activate' thing a parody or a genuine(ly cringeworthy) 'movement'? They have just come out with an endorsement for that Jacob-Tarquinfarquar-Reece-Muggytits or whatever he's called. #Mongmentum indeed. Momentum people seem very confident it's real. I thought it was a send up at first but they wouldn't be taking the Mick so much if it was just a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 4, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 4, 2017 4 hours ago, wazzap24 said: Is this 'Activate' thing a parody or a genuine(ly cringeworthy) 'movement'? They have just come out with an endorsement for that Jacob-Tarquinfarquar-Reece-Muggytits or whatever he's called. #Mongmentum indeed. It's proof that satire is dead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Speaking of Jacob Rees-Mogg. What an utter arsehat. If the question is how do you get a worse leader than Theresa May, then JRS is the answer. This is from this morning, so hot off the press. Almost everything I hear about him makes my skin crawl and he is one of the favorites to take over as leader of the Torys and therefore probably the country. Quote Asked if his opposition was so absolute it included cases of rape and incest, he told ITV’s Good Morning Britain: “I’m afraid so. Life is sacrosanct. It begins at the point of conception, and I think it is wrong.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 6, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2017 He's a proper Victorian old school toff Tory that hides just how nasty those views are to a modern audience with a slant on the Boris routine, Boris goes buffoon, Jacob goes for the harmless quaint toff. He'd be a horrific leader. You'd have poor houses back within weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) rees mogg is a **** moron. but him actually coming out with ludicrous statements like this should help stifle that ironic pro mogg nonsense. Edited September 6, 2017 by Rodders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted September 6, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2017 18 minutes ago, Rodders said: rees mogg is a **** moron. but him actually coming out with ludicrous statements like this should help stifle that ironic pro mogg nonsense. Kind of what we said about Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, choffer said: Kind of what we said about Trump. Same thing struck me. I wonder how many people follow him on twitter in an ironic fashion? However many that are tuned in to him for the lols, I'm pretty sure that Tory party HQ are not able to tell the difference and just see him getting surprisingly popular. Given the absolute paucity of choice in the Tory ranks to replace May, JRS may get the nod and could become PM without even having to go to the polls. This thought depresses me very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Rumours of a Cabinet reshuffle post-conference and that he'll be given a ministerial role. If that happens, it'll be a sign that those making the decisions see it as a realistic scenario, rather than the hilarious joke that anybody with a working brain would see it as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Rodders said: rees mogg is a **** moron. but him actually coming out with ludicrous statements like this should help stifle that ironic pro mogg nonsense. how do you compare Moggs views with say an MP who votes against making it law that gender selective abortion is illegal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) well I'm pro choice and whatever the reason someone has for an abortion is up to them. Whilst personally I would find gender selection to be an odd reason to have an abortion, I wouldn't make that illegal. He should be free to think whatever he thinks, but it would be wishful thinking to think people could acknowledge that personal view but not also have concerns about what he would do about potential changes to legislation .Even though he says he wouldn't change the law, it would still be worrying, even for other stuff unrelated to abortion. It's someone who opposes abortion even for rape and incest, showing a contempt for women's rights and bodies right there, in what other areas could his views cause problems? One man's "principles" are another's intolerable stubborness / inability to empathise. He's someone who genuinely thinks 'Every sperm is sacred'. :/ Edited September 6, 2017 by Rodders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 6, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2017 He's also against gay marriage, which is basically an indefensible position IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Straggler said: JRS Jacob Rees-Smog? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) JRM really is the gift that keeps on giving though. He'd be the biggest electoral disaster to hit the Tories in almost forever. This ain't Murica for one. Jez/Labour are incredibly popular for two. People really didn't want Billary for three, which gave Trumpton the 'in' that he needed. The cat's views are abhorrent and Victorian, and as such, if he were to become Tory leader, it'd be a real gift horse for Labour. Edited September 6, 2017 by Jon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Just now, Jon said: Jacob Rees-Smog? OKOKOK, I was listening to Everybody in love and mixed up JLS and JRM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: how do you compare Moggs views with say an MP who votes against making it law that gender selective abortion is illegal ? Gender selective abortion for fashion reasons should be illegal. Gender selective abortion due to inherited birth defects etc that only pass to one sex..not so much. Having a position of absolutism on abortion is charming, quaint and reassuringly old school. Unless you're the person that needs that abortion, in which case it's psychotically cruel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 27 minutes ago, Jon said: JRM really is the gift that keeps on giving though. He'd be the biggest electoral disaster to hit the Tories in almost forever. This ain't Murica for one. Jez/Labour are incredibly popular for two. People really didn't want Billary for three, which gave Trumpton the 'in' that he needed. The cat's views are abhorrent and Victorian, and as such, if he were to become Tory leader, it'd be a real gift horse for Labour. don't let Momentum fanboys posting on Facebook fool you regarding the Dear Leader , the last poll had those with an unfavourable view of Jez rising from 46% to 51% , I don't call that incredibly popular ( though of course it is a better rating than May if you use her as the benchmark for popularity) Regarding Mogg , I've only really seen him in action on QT a few months back , and generally speaking he was very well received in the Tory heartland that was Doncaster (I believe) where that show was coming from .. I know QT have a tendency to rig audiences so it's hard to judge solely on that , but he does seem to speak openly even when perhaps the best course of action would be to not answer the question and then try and move onto blaming Labour ... as it was the subject matter today , is abortion that strong an issue to turn voters away in droves from him (in the unlikely event he was leader) ? when Joe Public goes into the box , what % will have abortion as their burning issue that prevents them voting for him .. of course coupled with other issues that could make him unpalatable for an electorate , but as we've seen with Corbyn , the public don't seem to care that you are a opportunistic charlatan if you say enough empty promises that are popular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Just now, chrisp65 said: Gender selective abortion for fashion reasons should be illegal. Gender selective abortion due to inherited birth defects etc that only pass to one sex..not so much. Having a position of absolutism on abortion is charming, quaint and reassuringly old school. Unless you're the person that needs that abortion, in which case it's psychotically cruel. I assume by fashion you meant religious grounds , which was what the law was trying to prevent which is interesting to a degree , MP's voted against blocking abortion on religious grounds yet in that interview Mogg stated he was a practising Catholic (which probably rules him out of being PM anyway) and thus is expressing a view based on his religious view Now , we here on VT have our views around religion and people that live by an outdated view and imaginary deities , but there are still some people who live by religion , if we deny Mogg his religious views , should we deny muslims or Hindu's theirs ? etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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