Genie Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Does look a little bit like he wants people at “work” to stop calling him a word removed as he knows the MP grift is ending either way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 34 minutes ago, Genie said: Does look a little bit like he wants people at “work” to stop calling him a word removed as he knows the MP grift is ending either way. He's in one of the few seats that can still be called a safe Tory seat and is choosing to step down from it. If he wanted the "MP grift" to continue he could just do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 6 minutes ago, ml1dch said: He's in one of the few seats that can still be called a safe Tory seat and is choosing to step down from it. If he wanted the "MP grift" to continue he could just do that. Is there such thing as a Tory safe seat? Sarah Edwards toppled a 20,000 majority in Tamworth in October. The Mid-Bedfordshire reversal was even higher than the majority Poulter has/had at 24,600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dog Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 5 hours ago, Davkaus said: He's stood on the frontline and saw the effects of his parties policy for 14 years, and now decides to take a stand in the final months. He can get in the **** bin with the rest of them. Shame on Labour for welcoming him in. Preach. 14 years kicking the shit out of a puppy and then being the bloke that 'saves' it. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 28 Moderator Share Posted April 28 10 hours ago, Genie said: Is there such thing as a Tory safe seat? Sarah Edwards toppled a 20,000 majority in Tamworth in October. The Mid-Bedfordshire reversal was even higher than the majority Poulter has/had at 24,600. His majority is 26k and it’s in East Anglia, completely different kettle of fish to mid-beds / Tamworth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 1 minute ago, bickster said: His majority is 26k and it’s in East Anglia, completely different kettle of fish to mid-beds / Tamworth. It's a fair point, but there are some others in safe seats standing down too, not because they think they'll lose their seat or because they're now against eating babies, but because they know even if they keep their seat the party is taking a bloody good kicking and they don't have the appetite to sit in opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 28 Moderator Share Posted April 28 12 minutes ago, Davkaus said: It's a fair point, but there are some others in safe seats standing down too, not because they think they'll lose their seat or because they're now against eating babies, but because they know even if they keep their seat the party is taking a bloody good kicking and they don't have the appetite to sit in opposition Totally agree but his motivation isn’t because he'll lose his seat. His motivation is not to stay on the gravy train, which was the point. As he'd be in the much smaller and most likely opposition Tory Party, in a safe seat, he'd be more likely to be better paid as Opposition spokesperson on health given his prior political and life experience. The Tories will have a much smaller pool to pick people from and he'd be in one of their safer seats. No idea what his motivation actually is but it’s not that but I do think he's genuine about the NHS, he wrote an article in the Guardian in 2022 advocating for the Government to pay nurses more during the strikes. It could also be quite amusing watching the scramble for this seat given its safety, the constituency (apart from the Ipswich bit) is farmers and retirees. It really could attract some prominent names on the danger list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 8 minutes ago, bickster said: No idea what his motivation actually is I suspect he’s fed up of being called a word removed at the hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted April 28 Administrator Share Posted April 28 3 hours ago, bickster said: His majority is 26k and it’s in East Anglia, completely different kettle of fish to mid-beds / Tamworth. We must all remember when East Anglia is underwater in 25 years that we don't want these tory migrants coming into our nice counties, regardless of the size of their boats. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted April 30 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted April 30 I see the Irish Govt are trolling ours over the returning of migrants over the NI border. Our Govt has said there’s nothing in the EU withdrawal bill saying we have to accept refugees back so the Irish Govt are going to vote on a bill declaring that the UK is a safe place to send refugees 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 1 VT Supporter Share Posted May 1 9 hours ago, bickster said: I see the Irish Govt are trolling ours over the returning of migrants over the NI border. Our Govt has said there’s nothing in the EU withdrawal bill saying we have to accept refugees back so the Irish Govt are going to vote on a bill declaring that the UK is a safe place to send refugees Assume it's just a joke but would a civilised country class us as such? If we're then going to send them on to Rwanda the Irish government would have to to through the same wormholes we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 So in a desperate bid to make it look like their policy of forcibly detaining people and sending them to Rwanda at a cost of more than a million quid a head, they've had the cracking idea of getting the first bloke on a plane by, erm...offering him 3 grand to piss off. My only reservation about this is whether he can make his way back to Calais for less than 3 grand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 14 minutes ago, Davkaus said: So in a desperate bid to make it look like their policy of forcibly detaining people and sending them to Rwanda at a cost of more than a million quid a head, they've had the cracking idea of getting the first bloke on a plane by, erm...offering him 3 grand to piss off. Hasn't it so far cost £0.5 BILLION per person? Sorry, i actually mean £500,000,000 + £3,000 = £500,003,000 per person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 1 Moderator Share Posted May 1 39 minutes ago, Davkaus said: So in a desperate bid to make it look like their policy of forcibly detaining people and sending them to Rwanda at a cost of more than a million quid a head, they've had the cracking idea of getting the first bloke on a plane by, erm...offering him 3 grand to piss off. My only reservation about this is whether he can make his way back to Calais for less than 3 grand Well its an offer that has been on the table for a while, it's just that only now has somebody actually come forward to take them up on the offer after a good few months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 It’s absolutely guaranteed that these people smuggling gangs will setup a branch in Rwanda offering a route back to the UK. It’s much easier for them if they just hand out leaflets at the Rwanda processing centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 47 minutes ago, bickster said: Well its an offer that has been on the table for a while, it's just that only now has somebody actually come forward to take them up on the offer after a good few months So the Rwanda plan is working 15 minutes ago, Genie said: It’s absolutely guaranteed that these people smuggling gangs will setup a branch in Rwanda offering a route back to the UK. It’s much easier for them if they just hand out leaflets at the Rwanda processing centre. There's no market for this - all the people deported to Rwanda need to do is commit a crime in Rwanda. Then we take them back. Seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 13 minutes ago, Davkaus said: There's no market for this - all the people deported to Rwanda need to do is commit a crime in Rwanda. Then we take them back. Seriously. Gotta be the stupidest idea since Brexit. Purely coincidence that it’s the same people. Maybe the local police will be accepting bribes from migrants wanting them to charge them with very specific offences that keep them out of Rwandan jails, but onto UK bound flights. What could go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted May 1 VT Supporter Share Posted May 1 8 hours ago, sidcow said: Assume it's just a joke but would a civilised country class us as such? If we're then going to send them on to Rwanda the Irish government would have to to through the same wormholes we did. It's an open border anyway so I'm not sure what Ireland are going to do, escort them to the border and then let them walk back into Ireland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 1 Moderator Share Posted May 1 21 minutes ago, Davkaus said: There's no market for this - all the people deported to Rwanda need to do is commit a crime in Rwanda. Then we take them back. Seriously. Hold on a minute, so we have to take them back AND.... take in the often forgotten illegal immigrants in Rwanda that they don't want in equal number to the ones we've sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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