thabucks Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) 3 hours ago, Richard said: People really should stop investing time and energy in worrying about all sorts of different permutations . We are as good as down already People really stop investing so much time and energy worrying about others not sharing the shared doomed outlook and having a little faith however remote. Every day every page same old. We know how you feel. Can see how you have so many posts now. Edited December 21, 2015 by thabucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think were as good as down but until its mathematically impossible for us not to be anything could happen a miracle maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post supernova26 Posted December 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) 1.47 points per game to get to 38 points. We currently average 0.41 per game Win our next three we'll need 0.81 per game (every team from 17th placed Newcastle upwards are currently averaging above this). Draw our next three we'll need 1.55 per game (every team from 7th place Watford upwards are currently averaging above this). Lose our next three we'll need 1.72 per game (Only Man City, Arsenal and Leicester are averaging above this). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So realistically we need 5-6 points from the next 3 games that would require top 10-12 form to keep us up, certainly not beyond the realms of possibility. That's the positive spin, the negative is 1.47 per game is required at the moment and only West Ham upwards are averaging above that. So top 8 form required for the remainder of the season, as it stands. Edited December 21, 2015 by supernova26 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Surprisingly, that's actually a pretty good post. If the numbers are correct, of course (I haven't checked) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 1 hour ago, supernova26 said: 1.47 points per game to get to 38-39 points. We currently average 0.41 per game Win our next three we'll need 0.81 per game (every team from 17th placed Newcastle upwards are currently averaging above this). Draw our next three we'll need 1.55 per game (every team from 7th place Watford upwards are currently averaging above this). Lose our next three we'll need 1.72 per game (Only Man City, Arsenal and Leicester are averaging above this). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So realistically we need 5-6 points from the next 3 games that would require top 10-12 form to keep us up, certainly not beyond the realms of possibility. That's the positive spin, the negative is 1.47 per games is required at the moment and only West Ham upwards are averaging above that. So top 8 form required for the remainder of the season, as it stands. its doable in a league that is so incosistent... If we can beat West Ham.. we MAY just go on a run.. longer we go without a win.. well its over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Villa have scored as many goals as Stoke and Sunderland & Newcastle have let in more than we have. I think this side could score more if they start to have some confidence. I think the main issue is the caramel soft centre that we have by always letting in stupid goals and therefore we always seem to be chasing games. I would say on paper at least we have enough quality going forward to be in this division, though we could do with a class target man. If we could replace Sanchez, the full backs and have a goalkeeper to challenge Guzan,we might at least on paper be okay. However this would have been a lot better if this was done in August rather than January when we could virtually be down, In a roundabout way I would say Garde has probably half a decent side at Villa even though we are 10 adrift. But it is a unbalanced and inexperienced squad with zero confidence. Hindsight is wonderful thing in football but really did we need to spend 7 mil on a talented but unproven kid from Barcelona when we already have Grealish, Sinclair and Gill? If we have bought 1 good striker in a Austin type level for 15-20 mil instead of Gestede and Traoe we might be doing okay. But it's full of ifs and maybes isn't it? Edited December 21, 2015 by The Fun Factory 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 When I think of the bloody 2 million we've wasted on ilori (1 mil fee and 20k a week minimum), and we could have offered that money in the form of a better contract for one of our main targets, it is a bit annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I personally think it's a bit too much of a mountain now. My hope was based on winning at Newcastle and getting a few decent results in the few coming up, closing the gap and outfighting the others over the rest of the season. I don't think a draw was enough. Also, it seems like the noises out the club are that they're accepting it and planning for it, which has to be the right idea. Going down is bad, but if we're prepared and we're very strong we should be able to come straight back up. But hopefully if they feel the pressure's off, they can enjoy the football, express themselves a bit and perhaps get some good results to make it tighter of a finish than it seems at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 6 hours ago, VillaJ100 said: When I think of the bloody 2 million we've wasted on ilori (1 mil fee and 20k a week minimum), and we could have offered that money in the form of a better contract for one of our main targets, it is a bit annoying. You know I have completely forgotten we had Ilori. Is he injured or Drobny mark II? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 1.47 points per game to get to 38 points. We currently average 0.41 per game Win our next three we'll need 0.81 per game (every team from 17th placed Newcastle upwards are currently averaging above this). Draw our next three we'll need 1.55 per game (every team from 7th place Watford upwards are currently averaging above this). Lose our next three we'll need 1.72 per game (Only Man City, Arsenal and Leicester are averaging above this). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So realistically we need 5-6 points from the next 3 games that would require top 10-12 form to keep us up, certainly not beyond the realms of possibility. That's the positive spin, the negative is 1.47 per game is required at the moment and only West Ham upwards are averaging above that. So top 8 form required for the remainder of the season, as it stands. Absolutely spot on post, it looks really bleak at the moment but those numbers really prove it's not over yet, our form needs to drastically improve, sure, but it can be done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Wrong thread. Edited December 22, 2015 by GENTLEMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) 19 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: Villa have scored as many goals as Stoke and Sunderland & Newcastle have let in more than we have. I think this side could score more if they start to have some confidence. I think the main issue is the caramel soft centre that we have by always letting in stupid goals and therefore we always seem to be chasing games. I would say on paper at least we have enough quality going forward to be in this division, though we could do with a class target man. If we could replace Sanchez, the full backs and have a goalkeeper to challenge Guzan,we might at least on paper be okay. However this would have been a lot better if this was done in August rather than January when we could virtually be down, In a roundabout way I would say Garde has probably half a decent side at Villa even though we are 10 adrift. But it is a unbalanced and inexperienced squad with zero confidence. Hindsight is wonderful thing in football but really did we need to spend 7 mil on a talented but unproven kid from Barcelona when we already have Grealish, Sinclair and Gill? If we have bought 1 good striker in a Austin type level for 15-20 mil instead of Gestede and Traoe we might be doing okay. But it's full of ifs and maybes isn't it? Traore was an indulgent signing, and one that we really couldn't afford to make. He's one for the future most likely, not a relegation fight. We needed a sure thing, not a prospect, and 7m on a prospect seems irresponsible, IMO. Should've bought a striker instead. Edited December 22, 2015 by maqroll 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Just now, maqroll said: Traore was an indulgent signing, and one that awe really couldn't afford to make. He's one for the future most likely, not a relegation fight. We needed a sure thing, not a prospect, and 7m on a prospect seems irresponsible, IMO. Should've bought a striker instead. Have to agree with this and Adama was the one out of all of our signings I was most excited about. We've been left woefully short in terms of squad depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 We're lacking in fighting spirit more than squad depth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 20 minutes ago, dakid007 said: We're lacking in fighting spirit more than squad depth True. Villa just looks like a random collection of signings thrown together at present. There is little togetherness. A few (or one) wins could solve that I hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 When it comes to our squad depth, the phrase 'a mile wide and an inch deep' springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Villa have scored as many goals as Stoke and Sunderland & Newcastle have let in more than we have. I think this side could score more if they start to have some confidence. I think the main issue is the caramel soft centre that we have by always letting in stupid goals and therefore we always seem to be chasing games. I would say on paper at least we have enough quality going forward to be in this division, though we could do with a class target man. If we could replace Sanchez, the full backs and have a goalkeeper to challenge Guzan,we might at least on paper be okay. However this would have been a lot better if this was done in August rather than January when we could virtually be down, In a roundabout way I would say Garde has probably half a decent side at Villa even though we are 10 adrift. But it is a unbalanced and inexperienced squad with zero confidence. Hindsight is wonderful thing in football but really did we need to spend 7 mil on a talented but unproven kid from Barcelona when we already have Grealish, Sinclair and Gill? If we have bought 1 good striker in a Austin type level for 15-20 mil instead of Gestede and Traoe we might be doing okay. But it's full of ifs and maybes isn't it? Spot on post ,agree with everything you have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 3 hours ago, sexbelowsound said: Have to agree with this and Adama was the one out of all of our signings I was most excited about. We've been left woefully short in terms of squad depth. But if he'd gone to Stoke and been amazing the board and Sherwood would've been panned aswell, lack of ambition etc. I just wish we'd bloody play him, I've said it enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Win against West Ham could revive our season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 49 minutes ago, dakid007 said: Win against West Ham could revive our season We said that against Watford... then Newcastle... eventually we just have to recognise that it's too late. It'll be Norwich that'll 'kick start' our season after this game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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