useless Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 If we're relegated at the end of the season we'll be wishing we could go back to now when we still had a chance. Before January's finished I think we'll have closed the ten point gap considerably. Just a pity about the Bournemouth and Norwich wins today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 10 points off safety now. Newcastle were poor and we blew it. We still could've easily lost but poor finishing let us off. Relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 At least we can sing my favourite song now for every remaining game… We'l meet again… Don't know where… don't know when… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 10 points off safety now. Newcastle were poor and we blew it. We still could've easily lost but poor finishing let us off. Relegated Sorry to keep banging on about this, but it''s not "10 points off safety" - it's "10 points we have to catch up on our relegation rivals and have any chance at all of competing". Even catching up 10 points on our rivals would be a minor miracle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasterpocket68 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Were down we do not have a team capable of going on a run required to get us out of this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powell91 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) https://youtu.be/sonLd-32ns4 Edited December 19, 2015 by powell91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasterpocket68 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Do not know what planet some people are on here . There's hope and being realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 If you are trying to stay out of the bottom three then a point is probably a good result. If you are trying to catch up to get out of the bottom three it isn't good enough, especially as teams around that mark pick up wins . That's the trouble we have and the trouble we have had for a while I'm afraid. a few weeks ago it was a 6 point gap, then 8 and now it's ten. That is just. To catch up with other teams and I'm afraid some of us have been saying for a while it is not just about our form it also depends on other teams dropping points and being , basically, as bad as we have been in the first half of the season. So we are the worst team in premiership history at this stage and what we need for us to stay up is that we hit top 8 form and we have at least three other teams having the worst for, in premiership history over the second half of the season (by worst form I mean matching our first half form which is the worst). It is not going to happen. The pressure is on to win half of our remaining games . How many have we won in 2015 ? Today was the first time in ages we have come from a goal down to rescue anything. So basically we can't afford to concede first. If we score first and then concede our confidence is so brittle we will invariably go on to lose. So it's not ideal is it? we are down and have been for a while. Thanks randy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Before kick off we were 11 points behind and I think if Newcastle had have beaten us i think it would have been even more. So I think it could turn out to be a big point for us. a couple of wins and we're right back in contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Before kick off we were 11 points behind and I think if Newcastle had have beaten us i think it would have been even more. So I think it could turn out to be a big point for us. a couple of wins and we're right back in contention. Oh no we're not!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 1 hour ago, briny_ear said: Sorry to keep banging on about this, but it''s not "10 points off safety" - it's "10 points we have to catch up on our relegation rivals and have any chance at all of competing". Even catching up 10 points on our rivals would be a minor miracle. And that's on the basis these teams don't win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Still lots of points to play for. 2 weeks ago Bournemouth didn't expect to get 3 wins in a row. We're not mathematically finished so we keep fighting. Due sum good fortune soon. Utv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 42 minutes ago, useless said: Before kick off we were 11 points behind and I think if Newcastle had have beaten us i think it would have been even more. So I think it could turn out to be a big point for us. a couple of wins and we're right back in contention. Only if the teams above us lose.They're winning at the moment. Honestly, I think we're too far adrift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 They're winning at the moment but that won't last forever, just like our poor form won't last forever. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 The problem with other teams winning and something that is being missed is the marker to stay up will start to rise. A few weeks back some were arguing 34-35 points would be enough, I've personally always thought 38 points is the marker as that got us safe last season and also in the lambert seasons. However with Norwich, Newcastle and Bournemouth regularly picking up points with still half the season to go you could easily be looking at 40 points as those teams only need another 20 odd to reach it and that's not that many, 5 wins 5 draws etc. Our task is monumental, I just can't see how we'll even come close to getting another 30 points this season. It requires winning lots of games in half a season and we're just not good enough at both ends of the pitch. I want to see us going down fighting at least though, at least we showed some spirit in the second half and didn't just accept another defeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Exactly in a season where every team apart from us is capable of beating anybody else we could be looking at a higher safety pts total than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 2 hours ago, briny_ear said: Sorry to keep banging on about this, but it''s not "10 points off safety" - it's "10 points we have to catch up on our relegation rivals and have any chance at all of competing". Even catching up 10 points on our rivals would be a minor miracle. Would you feel better if we started saying we are 33 pts off of safety as that'll get us to 40 which is seen as the safety figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted December 19, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2015 We were already down a few weeks ago, today is another point, which given we had only 6 points before today, a big plus. if we can start not consistently not getting a beating then we might be able to conceivably start consistently getting positive results and get some confidence. Realistically an improvement from here is not be a total shambolic walkover every week for whoever we play, then perhaps after a few weeks of actually being competitive who knows, we might win a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 1 hour ago, useless said: They're winning at the moment but that won't last forever, just like our poor form won't last forever. ....and the games won't last forver. It was now or never a month ago, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted December 19, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2015 Just now, rodders0223 said: ....and the games won't last forver. It was now or never a month ago, now or never has indeed gone, long gone. it's now, um, never. we should be thinking about promotion rather than avoiding relegation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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