AndyBM Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 its fair to say, it doesnt look possible to only start with tims signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted August 12, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 12, 2015 Guzan Richards Gana Ayew Veretout Traore Gil Grealish Sinclair Gestede Agbonlahor The old 1-1-6-2 eh? Could be entertaining.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Thought I'd have a stab at the final 25 + (Under 21s). Please try to get past where I've put people and the formation please! Just it's easier to see our relative positional depth in a chart like this rather than a straight table. -------------------------------- Guzan/Steer/Bunn -------------------------------- Hutton/Crespo ---- Richards/Okore -- Clark/Baker ------ Amavi(21)/Bennett -------- Gana/Bacuna ---- Westwood/Sanchez --- Vertout/Gardner ------- + Richardson Gil/Adama(21)/Agbonlahor --------------------------- Grealish(21)/Sinclair/Cole ------------------------------- Gestede/Ayew/Kozak ------------------------------ 24 + 3 Classifying as Under 21 (Amavi was born after 1 January 1994) That means from the "First Team Squad" shipping out N'Zogbia, Senderos and Tonev. Think these three most have agreed upon are unlikely to be among Tim's plans. So Having 3 First Team players classifying as Under 21 we would have space for one more player. I think that's either N'Zogbia, if he stays, some new player, or it'll remain open for use in January. We could still sign an Under 21 (Still think we'll try to sign a developmental right back). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) When I look at that I wonder, do we need another centre mid more than anything else? Obviously a top class striker or centre back would be welcomed, but we look low on strength in depth if we play a 3 man midfield. Maybe I'm being a little greedy? Edited August 13, 2015 by dont_do_it_doug. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Don't forget Sherwood will likely want to bring some through the academy too. If things got so bad that we couldn't field a central 3 then we now have enough attacking options that we could revert a to just a central pairing and then 3 more attacking midfielders. I think generally Tim would much prefer not having to play purely with a 2. He likes a 3 where one of side of the trio bombs foreword from deep, leaving the other two as a double pivot of sorts whilst in an attacking position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 If we only get in Adama then this is our strongest line-up IMO. I honestly know nothing about Crespo, I've heard differing reports on whether he's better at RB or CB. If only Richards could play in his natural RB position and we'd get in a CB we'd even stronger. But he did play very well at CB vs Bournemouth so hopefully he'll shut us up and be amazing there. Even now our squad is ridiculously better on paper than last season. Looking at how the squad is set up I fairly confident Sherwood will go for another striker to rotate with Gestede. If we are in fact done in the transfer market I'd still be very confident for the coming season! Guzan Bacuna - Richards - Clark - Amavi Veretout - Westwood - Gueye Adama - Gestede - Grealish Subs: Bunn Okore Gil Ayew Gabby Sanchez Sinclair Reserves: Gardner Steer Hutton Baker Crespo Bennett Richardson Youth players 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfctom89 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 agree with the above , would like sanchez in for westwood for certain games probably against the big boys to add that steel in the middle . other then that spot on. Also dont think ive seen a bench that strong ever at the villa , and no nzogbia could this get any better ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 From Wes's line up, I'd like another striker and to replace Richardson with another midfielder. Would be more than happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Think Richardson will be kept purely because of his experience and versatility. He's not a bad squad player to have at all. Similar to Cole. Good to have a few old heads around the place. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) When I look at that I wonder, do we need another centre mid more than anything else? Obviously a top class striker or centre back would be welcomed, but we look low on strength in depth if we play a 3 man midfield. Maybe I'm being a little greedy? I don't think you're being greedy at all. I don't hold out much hope that Gardner is going to storm the league this year. Gana seems to have settled in. Westwood will do his job, Veretout may take a while to acclimatise, Sanchez needs to find some consistency. If Gardner leaves on loan as expected then as long as there are other full backs available our second string looks like Bacuna--Sanchez--Richardson unless Mason or Calder get a chance. We've only replaced Cleverley and Delph so far. Injurys worry me. Especially as I've been watching one of the worst Villa midfields I can recall in recent years. Edited August 14, 2015 by VILLAMARV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted August 14, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 14, 2015 Tim does actually have an 11 if he signed a CB or RB Bunn Crespo/RB Richards CB/Crespo Amavi Traore Vertout Gueye Sinclair Ayew Gestede Not too shabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI-THE-GOD Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 ---------------Guzan Hutton-Richards-Clark-Amavi -----------Vertout-Gueye ---------Traore-Gil-Grealish ---------------Gestede Possibly abit to attack minded , i think we'd probably have to drop maybe Gil and bring in Westwood or Sanchez but i like it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 are we done spending yet? clearly not all of tims signing will be starters, but to fit the right players in is going to be a headache i think we now have too many players on the books now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alakagom Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) are we done spending yet? clearly not all of tims signing will be starters, but to fit the right players in is going to be a headache i think we now have too many players on the books now I don't think a headache really.. Adama, Amavi, Richards, Veretout and Gueye are sure starters when fit. Crespo and Bunn good utility players to have on the bench and signed as such. Gestede/Ayew as the strikers, they'll be more rotation here with Gabby and Kozak in mix, obviously Gestede now looking like starter but it can quickly change if one of others catches form, good to have competition especially at this place. Leaves Sinclair as the only uncertain one, he came over to play more at Villa, but with Grealish on the left he'll struggle I imagine, but for now he is a starter again and will provide good competition to Jack. I mean I don't think its headache, its actually fairly nice to have such nice options available throughout the team. Edited August 14, 2015 by Alakagom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I would actually like to see this line-up: ----------------------Guzan----------------- Crespo-----Richards---Clark---Amavi -------------Veretout-----Gana------------ Ayew-------------Traore--------Grealish -------------------Gestede------------------ Subs: Bunn, Bacuna, Baker, Richardson, Gabby, Sinclair, Gil That's really decent attacking options from the bench! And, the starting top four will kill teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I would actually like to see this line-up: ----------------------Guzan----------------- Crespo-----Richards---Clark---Amavi -------------Veretout-----Gana------------ Ayew-------------Traore--------Grealish -------------------Gestede------------------ Subs: Bunn, Bacuna, Baker, Richardson, Gabby, Sinclair, Gil That's really decent attacking options from the bench! And, the starting top four will kill teams. that's one way to celebrate Westwood's new contract! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I would actually like to see this line-up: ----------------------Guzan----------------- Crespo-----Richards---Clark---Amavi -------------Veretout-----Gana------------ Ayew-------------Traore--------Grealish -------------------Gestede------------------ Subs: Bunn, Bacuna, Baker, Richardson, Gabby, Sinclair, Gil That's really decent attacking options from the bench! And, the starting top four will kill teams. I'd swap Gil for Ayew. Then that's a solid team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) I would actually like to see this line-up: ----------------------Guzan----------------- Crespo-----Richards---Clark---Amavi -------------Veretout-----Gana------------ Ayew-------------Traore--------Grealish -------------------Gestede------------------ Subs: Bunn, Bacuna, Baker, Richardson, Gabby, Sinclair, Gil That's really decent attacking options from the bench! And, the starting top four will kill teams. that's one way to celebrate Westwood's new contract! He was injured when I picked this line-up throw him in for Richardson! In fact, you can change Baker for Okore whilst you're at it. Edited August 14, 2015 by villarocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I think we'll see the formation switched about home and away. Can see Westwood , Veretout and Gana, away matches. With one of those dropped for a number 10 (Grealish or Gil) at home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejs1111 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) I just don't envision Grealish playing primarily out wide on the left. He doesn't have enough pace imo. Last season I thought he played better a bit more central behind the strikers. I'm thinking he will rotate with Gil as the central AM. However, if we don't sign another LW then we really only have Sinclair to play wide left. Perhaps Grealish will rotate between LW and AM? That would give him plenty of game time. I'm of the opinion that TS will use 2 formations primarily (given the signings)... 442 <> and a typical 4231 with wingers. Its just so exciting with all the player options we have now! 442<> ---------------------------------Guzan/Bunn------------------------------- Bacuna/Hutton---Micah/Okore---Clark/Baker---Amavi/Bennett -----------------------------Westwood/Sanchez------------------------- -----Gana/New CM-------------------------Veretout/Richardson----- --------------------------------Gil/Grealish--------------------------------- -------------Ayew/Gabby-------------------Gestede/Kozak------------ 4231 ---------------------------------Guzan/Bunn------------------------------- Hutton/Bacuna---Micah/Okore---Clark/Baker---Amavi/Richardson ----------Gana/Westwood----------------Veretout/Sanchez---------- Traore/Ayew--------------Gil/Grealish-------------Sinclair/Grealish -------------------------Gestede/Kozak/Gabby-------------------------- Obviously Grealish could flip and be a starter in these slots if he proves it on the pitch. Maybe he is best used with these options wide left in the 4231?? Edited August 14, 2015 by ejs1111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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