sne Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Genie said: I really hate this casual fan labelling of managers struggling as “dinosaurs”, like they know what his management and coaching style is and have a broad enough knowledge to be able to form a comparable opinion. In Moyes case I comes from his short Man U stint at I imagine. Quote Moyes is a 'dinosaur': Jurassic training regime is why Van Persie is injured, claims Dutch coach By James Andrew for MailOnline PUBLISHED: 08:30 GMT, 25 July 2013 | UPDATED: 11:49 GMT, 25 July 2013 David Moyes has been called a 'dinosaur' and his coaching methods have been labelled as prehistoric and the reason behind Robin van Persie’s injury concerns. A leading Dutch fitness specialist has called into question Moyes’ training regime and believes Van Persie being taken off at half-time during United’s friendly in Japan on Tuesday because he had experienced tightness in a thigh was down to the new United boss. Moyes said taking the striker off was precautionary and the striker has since been given the all clear to continue on the tour. Prehistoric: David Moyes' training regime has been criticised by a Dutch fitness coach But Raymond Verheijen, who has worked with Barcelona, Chelsea, Manchester City and worked with Gary Speed at Wales among others and has a reputation for being outspoken, hit out at the Scot. Writing on his Twitter account, Verheijin noted that Moyes had previously said United had ‘overtrained’ Van Persie at the start of pre-season. Too hard? Robin Van Persie was taken off as a precaution He wrote: 'In Sydney Moyes said: ‘We’ve overtrained Robin this week to build up his fitness’. [In Japan] he picked up muscle injury. It really makes you wonder how these prehistoric training methods can still take place at the highest level. 'The only way to solve this problem in Jurassic Park is to improve education of these dinosaur coaches, fitness clowns & scientific cowboys. Concern: Van Persie was taken off at half time 'All over the world in pre-season you see the pattern ‘overtraining-fatigue-injuries’. Always avoid accumulation of fatigue in pre-season. 'But as long as most dinosaurs are still in denial & ignore how things develop in other countries, nothing will ever change in Jurassic Park. Obviously, players like RVP should learn to protect themselves better against ‘overtraining’ & ‘punishing training’.' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2377498/David-Moyes-training-labelled-prehistoric-Dutch-fitness-coach.html The players at Man U also seemed to hate his training methods from what I remember. Edited November 30, 2017 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Since we have "that" Sammy Lee picture in the Everton thread it's no more than right that we get this one here Best of luck Sid! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, sne said: In Moyes case I comes from his short Man U stint at I imagine. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2377498/David-Moyes-training-labelled-prehistoric-Dutch-fitness-coach.html The players at Man U also seemed to hate his training methods from what I remember. RVP was a sick note pretty much his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Genie said: I really hate this casual fan labelling of managers struggling as “dinosaurs”, like they know what his management and coaching style is and have a broad enough knowledge to be able to form a comparable opinion. Think Sne covred that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, sne said: Since we have "that" Sammy Lee picture in the Everton thread it's no more than right that we get this one here Best of luck Sid! That poor bastard. **** hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted November 30, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2017 4 hours ago, sne said: Since we have "that" Sammy Lee picture in the Everton thread it's no more than right that we get this one here Best of luck Sid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Zatman said: Hughton is nearly 60 and builds strong defences with little attacking but he is good at it Is he really? Barely looks 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Is he really? Barely looks 40. He played for Ireland in the 80s, i actually remember going to his Ireland testimonial around 1995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 13 hours ago, Zatman said: Was he just in right place at Everton or what has happened. He looks nothing like that manager and he looks like he lost his fire after United The spell at Man. United broke him. He realised he wasn't going to manage at those heights again because he simply was out of his depth. Been going through the motions since and this is continuing at West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 12 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Bloody hell is he? He looks really good for 60 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Quote Mayor Sadiq Khan to take control of London Stadium Last Updated: 01/12/17 11:36am Mayor Sadiq Khan will take control of the London Stadium The mayor of London Sadiq Khan has taken over control of the Olympic Stadium after a report revealed the deal with West Ham represents poor value to taxpayers. The Moore Stephens report reveals there was a board meeting in 2016 where it was looked at whether to sell, close or re-tender for the West Ham contract. The investigation was commissioned by the mayor in November after it was revealed that stadium costs had soared from £429m, which was how much the stadium cost to build, to £752m following the transformation process. The original cost of the transformation was £154m but that rose to £270m in 2015 due to the complicated roof structure, and a further £51m of taxpayers money was needed for issues such as retractable seating. A report said stadium deal with West Ham was poor value for taxpayers The report concluded that the deal with West Ham was "onerous" and the decisions to transform the stadium and to accept the terms of West Ham's second bid as anchor tenants were made based on incorrect financial estimates and a failure to fully understand or investigate the commercial risks to the taxpayer. It is also forecast the stadium will lose £24m in 2017-18. The mayor will now take control of the Stadium in order to renegotiate deals and minimise ongoing losses. Clicky I still cant believe we are funding this for West Ham. What a complete and utter joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 It always amazes me how shit this country is as budgeting for stuff like this. Wasn't Wembley years delayed and well over budget? Same wth HS2 Whatever the initial quote is - just treble it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I like the West Ham statement. "Yeah well you signed it so tough shit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, YLN said: I like the West Ham statement. "Yeah well you signed it so tough shit" Sadly they are right, what a complete shambles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Swansea has Stoke, West Brom, and City. Swansea can probably get a win in there. Stoke and West Brom aren't doing that well. Palace have Bournemouth, Watford, and West brom. If Palace can't get a win in those 3, then they are surely going down. West Ham have City, Chelsea, and Arsenal. Can't see them even getting a point. West Ham could be bottom of the table mid December. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, Czechlad said: Swansea has Stoke, West Brom, and City. Swansea can probably get a win in there. Stoke and West Brom aren't doing that well. Palace have Bournemouth, Watford, and West brom. If Palace can't get a win in those 3, then they are surely going down. West Ham have City, Chelsea, and Arsenal. Can't see them even getting a point. West Ham could be bottom of the table mid December. Good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted December 1, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Czechlad said: Swansea has Stoke, West Brom, and City. Swansea can probably get a win in there. Stoke and West Brom aren't doing that well. Palace have Bournemouth, Watford, and West brom. If Palace can't get a win in those 3, then they are surely going down. West Ham have City, Chelsea, and Arsenal. Can't see them even getting a point. West Ham could be bottom of the table mid December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimzk5 Posted December 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2017 So its taken the best part of 4 years for anyone in some sort of power to say that west ham having a tax payer built stadium, then renovated at tax payers cost then funded again by the tax payer for them to play there to say something's not right here. Make them play at the Boleyn ground. Oh no we cant cus the owners sold the ground for a massive proffit. Absolute joke 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighavfc Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) Nothing like this surprises me any more, especially when some of our finest MP's are involved. Absolute scandal that costs almost doubled to make it all nice and cosy for them, who the f**k sits there and thinks ....o yeah that sounds about right!! Im guessing there is no break clauses? Edited December 1, 2017 by leighavfc Costs went up around 75% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Every person in the country with half a brain could see it was a horrific deal for the UK tax payers. Don’t the Governemt employ anybody capable of negotiating a deal? They had at least 3 clubs interested in the stadium so how did it go so badly? Heads should roll for robbing the country of so much money to make millionaires even richer. Absolutely no excuse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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