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Yeah, this is what I posted earlier...not sure why we wait until the last day to be putting bids in...seems madness to me.

 

To make Adebayor panic  :detect:

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Yeah, this is what I posted earlier...not sure why we wait until the last day to be putting bids in...seems madness to me.

 

To make Adebayor panic  :detect:

 

 

Honestly, flushing out other signings would be the only logical explanation to the madness.

 

Otherwise it would be "we want this guy, we'll wait until last day to bid...that'll work"...."oh, palace said no"...."oh ****, what now?"

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I have a feeling this net spend issue is going to rumble on.

Big money came in for two players. Two players who formed an integral part of the team last year, the money that was spent beyond that brought in,m,whatever the clauses and wages on top, has been pitiful.

There's no change in the chairman's approach. Fair play to Sherwood for deploying the money so well and improving a great many areas of the team but there has been no investment. Imagine if we would've kept Benteke and Delph. We might've been lucky to just get Adama and Richards.

I'm not in the business of getting on the chairman's back, i don't see the point. It needs pointing out, though.

Had we not sold Delph and Benteke we might still have spent £55m

You can't honestly believe that?

 

No I don't.

 

But the point is we have no idea how much we'd have spent if we didn't sell Benteke and Delph. We could quite easily have spent £20m and we'd have a net spend of £20m.

 

But we'd have bought less players and spent less money.

 

The assumption people are making is that we have only spent ANY money because we got money from selling Benteke and Delph.

There's no way any of us know that is the case.

 

Maybe we had a budget of £20m and Lerner has allowed Sherwood to spend the proceeds of Delph and Benteke on top of that?

Maybe we had a budget of £30m and Lerner has held back some of the Delph and Benteke proceeds?

Maybe we had a budget of nothing and Sherwood was told to only spend the money we've generated from sales?

 

Who knows?

But football doesn't work in lump sums of cash up front. There isn't a pot of £50 million that empties and fills up as Sherwood spends money and sells players.

 

We've signed eleven players, soon to be 12 this window. We've spent £55 million.

It's a huge amount of business regardless of how much money we received.

 

We don't know that that's all Sherwood is allowed to spend. If the chairman has £20m available maybe Sherwood isn't just spunking it for the sake of it? Maybe Lerner is waiting to see how the team does before allowing Sherwood to spend every penny he has in the transfer budget?

 

 

There are dozens of scenarios. We are obsessed with spending every single penny the club has available straight away.

it's ridiculous

 

 

Okay, I agree with this, but I don't think you did your argument any favours by speculating that we might have had £55m to spend with no outgoings, a scenario which we can literally just write as off as untrue without actually being Randy Lerner or whatever. 

 

I explained my point.

 

I don't believe we would have. But the point is we don't know what net spend would have been without those sales.

 

I HIGHLY doubt that, had we sold no players this summer, we'd have a net spend of zero.

That's the point I'm making.

 

Looking at net spend without context is pointless.

 

 

If we'd had no money coming in and net spend was zero, then that would be an awful scenario.

If we'd sold Benteke for £100m and had a net spend of zero then it's an ENTIRELY different situation.

 

It's all about context.

 

If you'd told me before any business that we'd have a net spend of zero then I'd have been worried.

If you'd told me it we'd have spent £55million and signed 12 players in order to get that net spend then I wouldn't.

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Oulare to Watford is a loan deal. Not sure why we wouldn't have gone in for that if we are offering £1.5m to loan Gayle.

They're saying he's going to go for £5m, we don't have £5m
Says who?

Trying to get players on frees/loans. If we had the money we would spend it.

Watford have got money and they aren't buying him either, it's only a loan deal

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The Trees tweeted that a private jet landed at BHX, which he believed Berbatov was on board, and that the jet left pretty quickly suggesting that Berbatov might be sticking around (in the midlands)

It seems he only assumes its berbatov. All we know is a private jet landed late last night and left quickly.

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