terrytini Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Is he then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Westwood definitely isn't better than Cleverley. That's mad. They're both similar players, in an ideal world just one plays as both are busy, get around the pitch, tackle. I actually think Westwood can influence a game a little better. To me Cleverley is another Sidwell, someone who's on the pitch but not really influencing the game in a huge way and just average in many ways. Sidwell was a big drain on our finances and I want to get away from that sort of player. It's not like Cleverley's a huge game changer, he started all our six game losing run for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) They're both similar players, in an ideal world just one plays as both are busy, get around the pitch, tackle. I actually think Westwood can influence a game a little better. Westwood tackles? Edited December 18, 2014 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 18, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2014 I'd say Westwood and Cleverley are very similar players. Cleverley hasn't done anything in a Villa shirt to suggest he's better. Westwood hasn't had the luxury of playing in a Man United team full of brilliant footballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Been disappointing for mine. I thought he would be a lot more attacking. He is very similar to Westwood. Marginally better but no point spending 8 million to bring him if hes only marginally better. Hopefully we leave him at Man Utd and go sign an attacking midfielder in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Been disappointing for mine. I thought he would be a lot more attacking. He is very similar to Westwood. Marginally better but no point spending 8 million to bring him if hes only marginally better. Hopefully we leave him at Man Utd and go sign an attacking midfielder in January. This Don't know how, don't know why but for whatever reason I thought he was that attacking midfielder lambert had been moaning about, the reality is he does the same job as Westwood only in my mind Westwood is a better player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Yep, like others I thought he's be similar to Delph, breaking lines and going past the strikers to make space for himself and others. Seems he's got decent technique though and that could be trained into him, but I thought he'd be much more dynamic. The goal he put past us last year made me thing he'd be pretty good. I recall he was playing well at Wigan as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I don't know why its so ridiculous to have Westwood as a better player, Cleverley is so average and while you could say the same for Westwood the only reason Cleverley has this inflated price and reputation is because of where hes from. Both are pretty bang average if were honest, neither really do anything in the defending or getting forward side of things but id rather keep the one we have than spend 8m on one we don't need. I'm still trying to find out what Cleverley actually offers everytime i watch us tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I'm not Westwood's biggest fan (although I think he has improved a lot), but he is better than Cleverley. Cleverley goes missing and is nowhere near good enough to be our attacking option in the midfield. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 The style Villa plays we need both Westwood and Cleverly in the team backed up by a good DM. Cleverly was not brought in to be an attacking midfielder but to control the middle with Westwood. Our 2 wingers are our attacking mids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 The style Villa plays we need both Westwood and Cleverly in the team backed up by a good DM. Cleverly was not brought in to be an attacking midfielder but to control the middle with Westwood. Our 2 wingers are our attacking mids. This is all well and good but we don't have one decent winger at the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Blooming 'eck Delphinho, agreeing with everything you say today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 The style Villa plays we need both Westwood and Cleverly in the team backed up by a good DM. Cleverly was not brought in to be an attacking midfielder but to control the middle with Westwood. Our 2 wingers are our attacking mids. This is all well and good but we don't have one decent winger at the club. We havent had any since Downing and Young buggered off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 The style Villa plays we need both Westwood and Cleverly in the team backed up by a good DM. Cleverly was not brought in to be an attacking midfielder but to control the middle with Westwood. Our 2 wingers are our attacking mids. Actually, yes he was. "I want to be more advanced in that three and hit both boxes.” http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-tom-cleverley-ready-7911905 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 He doesn't even get back into the team even with Westwood injured for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 If we play the same system i'd have him back in over weimman for the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 In the Mirror... Aston Villa set to sign Manchester United loanee Tom Cleverley on permanent deal. The midfielder moved to Villa Park in a loan move on deadline day and has been a regular fixture in Paul Lambert's side. Aston Villa will tie up a £7.5million move to keep midfielder Tom Cleverley on their books when the January transfer window opens. Boss Paul Lambert has been so impressed with the 25-year-old that he wants to activate an option in the deadline day loan deal Villa agreed with Manchester United to sign him. Cleverley’s Old Trafford contract runs out in the summer, making him free now to talk to clubs abroad about his future. Villa’s money men would ideally prefer to delay a deal until the summer in the hope of keeping the former England star, who has enjoyed his game under Lambert, on their books for free. But his form has improved so much since getting regular games – the match with United was the first game he’s missed since signing – that Lambert doesn’t want to take the risk of losing him. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-set-sign-manchester-4845067 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 7.5m is fcuking bullshit. I want £60m for Benteke in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rodders Posted December 20, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2014 7.5mil for an england international midfielder who's improved with each performance and is likely to going forward is really not that bad. Given that when Lambert has been given money to spend the top dollar has been spent well, I'll trust him on this one too. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I hope that in 2 years time, Cleverley will be a decent option off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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