Villan4Life Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 24 minutes ago, sne said: For those who watch the youth games. Is he good enough to step up to the challenge now with Terry out. Not really comfortable with Elphick or Richards on the bench. Or with Samba starting for that matter. Would be good to see either Suliman or Jacob Bedeau be given a chance now Terry is injured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: Would be good to see either Suliman or Jacob Bedeau be given a chance now Terry is injured. Unlikely. Bruce does not take chances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 46 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: Would be good to see either Suliman or Jacob Bedeau be given a chance now Terry is injured. Bedeau has struggled to make the u23 team at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 hour ago, sne said: For those who watch the youth games. Is he good enough to step up to the challenge now with Terry out. Not really comfortable with Elphick or Richards on the bench. Or with Samba starting for that matter. I think he is easily good enough, he's easy on the eye, got a nice controlled style. Noel doesn't think he's good enough but I do, I think the club's decision to hand him a new 3 year contract vindicates that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 5, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 5, 2017 I think he's got a decent chance of being good enough in the future - he's a player with a lot of quality - but right now, he's about 10kg away from being a Championship centre half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I think he's got a decent chance of being good enough in the future - he's a player with a lot of quality - but right now, he's about 10kg away from being a Championship centre half. 20kg if compared to samba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I think he's got a decent chance of being good enough in the future - he's a player with a lot of quality - but right now, he's about 10kg away from being a Championship centre half. When you say that he's 10kg away from being a Championship centre back, do you mean that he's not strong enough? I assume you mean that, could be wrong but I don't think he's a brute, far from it, I think some centre backs are that good that they don't need to be big physically, I think Suliman could be one of those, he reads the game so well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: When you say that he's 10kg away from being a Championship centre back, do you mean that he's not strong enough? I assume you mean that, could be wrong but I don't think he's a brute, far from it, I think some centre backs are that good that they don't need to be big physically, I think Suliman could be one of those, he reads the game so well Bruce strikes me as the kind of manager who will go with experience unless he has no other choice - I’d expect samba , elphick and jedinak to be ahead of him , would like to see the lad on the bench at least and get him integrated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Eastie said: Bruce strikes me as the kind of manager who will go with experience unless he has no other choice - I’d expect samba , elphick and jedinak to be ahead of him , would like to see the lad on the bench at least and get him integrated Agreed to an extent but that hasn't been the case with Andre Green 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 hour ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Agreed to an extent but that hasn't been the case with Andre Green Winger is a skill position though, young players usually get brought through earlier in those positions than at CB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 58 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Winger is a skill position though, young players usually get brought through earlier in those positions than at CB. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I am looking forward for the next month for Villa Talkers to demand Suliman to start, and then to have 1 bad game for then to be totally written off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 On 05/11/2017 at 22:45, HanoiVillan said: Winger is a skill position though, young players usually get brought through earlier in those positions than at CB. That's an understatement. Experience matters so much more defensively than it does for attackers - you don't get many good CBs under the age of 23 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 07/11/2017 at 20:56, The Fun Factory said: I am looking forward for the next month for Villa Talkers to demand Suliman to start, and then to have 1 bad game for then to be totally written off. LoL.. In all serious though I would like to see a lot of our youth and also backup first teamers picked for the FA cup game, including Sulliman. Steer, Suliman, Green, Doyle-Hayes, O'Hare & Hepburn Murphy, Throw in RDL, Bree, Grealish and 2 other first teamers and that would be a nice run out and a showcase for our youngsters too show what they are capable of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 8 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: LoL.. In all serious though I would like to see a lot of our youth and also backup first teamers picked for the FA cup game, including Sulliman. Steer, Suliman, Green, Doyle-Hayes, O'Hare & Hepburn Murphy, Throw in RDL, Bree, Grealish and 2 other first teamers and that would be a nice run out and a showcase for our youngsters too show what they are capable of. .....that usually results in a defeat with criticism of the manager not taking the 'magic of the cup' (tm) seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 On 05/12/2017 at 18:00, The Fun Factory said: .....that usually results in a defeat with criticism of the manager not taking the 'magic of the cup' (tm) seriously. Considering the circumstances I think most fans would understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 On 2017-11-05 at 17:30, OutByEaster? said: I think he's got a decent chance of being good enough in the future - he's a player with a lot of quality - but right now, he's about 10kg away from being a Championship centre half. Could be a good balance if he is paired with Micah Richards then, as he is about 10 kg too heavy from being a Championship centre half! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Had high hopes for this guy, after winning the world cup.. but if he can't even make a cup game ahead of James Bree at centre back then perhaps i'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, Junxs said: Had high hopes for this guy, after winning the world cup.. but if he can't even make a cup game ahead of James Bree at centre back then perhaps i'm wrong. He's a very good centre back, I don't know why he hasn't been given more chances in our first team than he has done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted January 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2018 Needs league football. Loan in jan pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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