Stevo985 Posted January 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Has Mourinho improved them at all, the defence has actually got worse since he came in I'd put money on them improving while Kane is out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I'd put money on them improving while Kane is out In all competitions, Tottenham has won just two of their last 12 games in which Harry Kane has played no part (D4 L6), failing to win any of their four such matches this term (D3 L1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Genie said: In all competitions, Tottenham has won just two of their last 12 games in which Harry Kane has played no part (D4 L6), failing to win any of their four such matches this term (D3 L1). Easy money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 12, 2020 Moderator Share Posted January 12, 2020 Spurs are nine points ahead of us. Which is the same distance as they are from Champions league qualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Their away form hasn't improved. Were incredibly lucky to win at Wolves and nearly blew a 3 goal lead at West Ham. 1 point at Norwich and Southampton is more their standard this season. Before today's horror show I'd have been disappointed if they come to Villa Park and stroll to a victory but then we don't seem to believe we should even grace the pitch v these "top" teams so no doubt we'll let Dele and Son run riot. Thought for last few years Mourinho seems to be morphing more and more into Wenger in his last five seasons at Arsenal. Banging on about his past achievements constantly while younger more progressive types do the league title winning stuff (he's only won one league title since 2012) and his actual big game record has got much worse since he left Chelsea, early defeats in CL and regularly losing now to likes of Liverpool which simply didn't happen at Chelsea. He was very good up to 2015 but seems to have lost that 10% since winning the title at Chelsea. Man. United were always underwhelming for all the millions they spent under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 They've hit the end of cycle in terms of players. Many have become stale, but I also think the salary structure they have has hit its limits. When you're a top quality player like Erickson and see that Lingard is earning like £100k more than you, guaranteed, it must irk a little bit. They've also not made enough funds available to invest and grow the squad. They decided to get rid of one of the best coaches in the world and bring in a manager who is beyond his prime. Not very well managed from the widely admired Levy, no longer the man with the Midas touch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Sacking the manager was a stupid knee jerk reaction, they need Champions League football to be able to pay off their stadium debt. I still think Levy’s done a pretty amazing job there though. We were on a par with them about 10 years ago, both finishing around the top 6 and trying to break into the top 4. Spurs managed to do it, even making a Champions League final, whilst building a new mega stadium and keeping a wage structure that was lower than some Championship clubs. Meanwhile we imploded, had massive debts and were close to being wound up by the tax office. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Team needed recycling but they never did it. That 18 months not making a signing put them back as they needed fresh blood. Someof punts havent worked like Foyth or Sanchez and not keeping Llorente was strange, more than capable backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: They've hit the end of cycle in terms of players. Many have become stale, but I also think the salary structure they have has hit its limits. When you're a top quality player like Erickson and see that Lingard is earning like £100k more than you, guaranteed, it must irk a little bit. They've also not made enough funds available to invest and grow the squad. They decided to get rid of one of the best coaches in the world and bring in a manager who is beyond his prime. Not very well managed from the widely admired Levy, no longer the man with the Midas touch. Napoli are very similar in Italy. Still got likes of Koulibaly, Allan, Insigne and Mertens but they've all been s*** this season and Gattuso was just a hilariously bad choice. Bottom half now and below AC Milan which takes some doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Zatman said: Team needed recycling but they never did it. That 18 months not making a signing put them back as they needed fresh blood. Someof punts havent worked like Foyth or Sanchez and not keeping Llorente was strange, more than capable backup I’m guessing the outlay on the new stadium would be the reason why that hasn’t happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 people will point the finger at Jose but Spurs were broken long before he came in. A lot of the players have mentally given up and the Ajax game last year was the last time they were a team. People having a pop at us but Spurs havent played a recognised striker a number of times this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Mourinho has had a falling out with Danny Rose. I dont think a player rates them so much for such little skill than Rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 That tool Levy, again. Quote Mauricio Pochettino was left fuming after Daniel Levy agreed a £10million Tottenham deal with Amazon to record a fly-on-the-wall documentary for this season, Football Insider understands... ...The Argentine felt the cameras were intrusive and “blew his top” when it emerged that some were to be fixed in his office on a full-time basis. Pochettino felt like he was being “spied” upon by the documentary makers and that Levy had gone too far in granting access to areas that should be sacrosanct... Incomprehensible that any management figure, in any occupation, would behave in this way to his/her staff. Ever. If you ever work for such a person, leave, asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 31/01/2020 at 22:08, peterms said: That tool Levy, again. Incomprehensible that any management figure, in any occupation, would behave in this way to his/her staff. Ever. If you ever work for such a person, leave, asap. Spurs... They will do damn near anything for money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 13/01/2020 at 09:17, Dr_Pangloss said: They decided to get rid of one of the best coaches in the world Top coaches win stuff, best in world dominate. Poch has done neither of those and really shouldn’t be part of any discussion about best in the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Spurs are shite, which naturally means they will beat us with ease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Genie said: Top coaches win stuff, best in world dominate. Poch has done neither of those and really shouldn’t be part of any discussion about best in the world. we'll see when he lands at his next club, barca have appointed a new manager (albeit poch kind of ruled himself out with the Espanyol stuff) Bayern have a caretaker manager, if they don't get CL Dortmund could pull the plug on favre, utd are plodding along with ole, Napoli and lyon are both having poor seasons and there will no doubt be a shake up post euros I don't think he will land at a club at the top table allegri is still floating about somewhere too, a man who has won things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, villa4europe said: we'll see when he lands at his next club, barca have appointed a new manager (albeit poch kind of ruled himself out with the Espanyol stuff) Bayern have a caretaker manager, if they don't get CL Dortmund could pull the plug on favre, utd are plodding along with ole, Napoli and lyon are both having poor seasons and there will no doubt be a shake up post euros I don't think he will land at a club at the top table allegri is still floating about somewhere too, a man who has won things I think that one of the big boys will probably take a chance on him despite him doing little to justify it imo. He looks the part, and talks a good game but has yet not done anything of note to suggest he's an elite coach. The next job is the really important as he could become the next Andre Villas Boas (but without the CL trophy...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Genie said: Top coaches win stuff, best in world dominate. Poch has done neither of those and really shouldn’t be part of any discussion about best in the world. Too easy to be black and white over things like this. When Pochettino gets his next job, it will be at a top club. Surely they'd only go for "top" coaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, bobzy said: Too easy to be black and white over things like this. When Pochettino gets his next job, it will be at a top club. Surely they'd only go for "top" coaches? As I said, I think someone will take a chance on him because we’ve seen it all before. His record doesn’t say “top coach” so he wouldn’t be getting it on merit. It would be like a big club taking a punt on a youngster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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