Keyblade Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Sack a manager who was floundering because you refused to back him to revamp the squad, then hire a checkbook manager. Genius from Levy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 They broke their transfer record and spent over £100m in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, useless said: They broke their transfer record and spent over £100m in the summer. the problem is a couple of years of not spending, losing their best young players and then to be fair also poch not really giving much youth a chance, apart from central midfield they don't have a lot of depth and its not so much injuries (which they have) its several of them are out of form, the key ones being Eriksen and Ali, they're still very dependent on Kane and Son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Keyblade said: Sack a manager who was floundering because you refused to back him to revamp the squad, then hire a checkbook manager. Genius from Levy. It’s amazing how often this happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 One of the strangest sackings in absolute ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, useless said: They broke their transfer record and spent over £100m in the summer. So did we. Difference is, we did it on 12 players and they did it for 3. Hardly what I'd call revamping the squad. All they did this summer was plug a gap left by the departure of Dembele. Lo Celso and Sessegnon were signings for the future and don't improve the first team at all. Also, due to the contract situations, he either had to pony up and give Eriksen, Vertonghen and Alderweireld new contracts or give Poch money to replace them. He did neither. And that's just this season. The preceding 1 1/2 seasons, they didn't spend a dime, which allowed these squad holes to widen even further to the point they are now. We've had a higher net spend this summer than they've had in the past 10 years or so amazingly enough. Poch worked miracles to get this team to where it was. CL Finalists. Appeared in 3 other cup finals and finished in the top 3 for 3/4 years in a row and 2 back to back seasons where they were in the title race until the last couple of weeks. He was crying out for some backing in the transfer market to make a real push. Now we all know how Mourinho operates. In addition to being a new manager who needs to put his stamp on the team by buying new players, he also typically goes for more established, expensive players. By hiring him, you'd think Levy is ready to back him...which begs the question, why didn't you just back Poch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) We just about came up via the play-offs we needed that £100m to revamp our whole squad, they'd just just finished in the top four and reached the champions league final so their squad doesn't need anywhere near as much work on it as most squads in the premier league never mind ours. When you only need three or four players £100m is a lot of money, it's Pochettino who decided to spend half of it on Ndombele who as good as he is, plays in a position where Tottenham are well covered and then anoter £11m on Jack Clarke before loaning him back to Leeds. The previous summer they didn't spend anything but the money was there because they bid £25m for Grealish and made bids for other players, and the summer before that they spent another £100m plus. The idea that he hasn't been backed isn't accurate, and no doubt they'll spend money under Mourinho as well. Edited November 20, 2019 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hopefully they get off to a winning start on Saturday, could do with West Ham dropping points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: the problem is a couple of years of not spending, losing their best young players and then to be fair also poch not really giving much youth a chance, apart from central midfield they don't have a lot of depth and its not so much injuries (which they have) its several of them are out of form, the key ones being Eriksen and Ali, they're still very dependent on Kane and Son When did they sign the gormless cockney's offspring? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 32 minutes ago, useless said: We just about came up via the play-offs we needed that £100m to revamp our whole squad, they'd just just finished in the top four and reached the champions league final so their squad doesn't need anywhere near as much work on it as most squads in the premier league never mind ours. When you only need three or four players £100m is a lot of money, it's Pochettino who decided to spend half of it on Ndombele who as good as he is, plays in a position where Tottenham are well covered and then anoter £11m on Jack Clarke before loaning him back to Leeds. The previous summer they didn't spend anything but the money was there because they bid £25m for Grealish and made bids for other players, and the summer before that they spent another £100m plus. The idea that he hasn't been backed isn't accurate, and no doubt they'll spend money under Mourinho as well. The point is that they absolutely needed to revamp the squad if they wanted to even stand still. You can clearly see the effects of not doing so. It's not like Pochettino became a bad manager overnight. This team has aged. They don't press as much as they used to, considerably less so actually and a lot of the players just aren't as committed anymore due to financial reasons. This was the season for an overhaul and they didn't do it. 100m for a team of their ambitions is nothing when the they need to revamp. It's perfectly fine for us as a newly promoted team as it averages out to just about 12m per player. As someone who watches a lot of Spurs given that my brother supports them and are somewhat my second team, they needed to replace the following players: Rose Dier Wanyama Trippier Alderweireld (alternatively, a new contract) Vertonghen (alternatively, a new contract) Eriksen (alternatively, a new contract) Llorente Dembele If were were to be ambitious we could add Lloris to that list who has deteriorated significantly in recent years. That's almost a full XI. As it stands, all they've done in the summer was replace Dembele. The rest of that list have not been replaced. Either they're still here and not good enough or committed enough anymore, or they've departed without a replacement coming in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Mourinho will buy a rb and possibly rw and will do well. He’ll play 2 holding, ndomele and dier. Son running from deep, Kane up front. Wingers moura and someone else. He’ll tighten the defence up. It suits him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I think he'll play Sissoko not Dier for his physicality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Sissoko is brainless and can imagine Mourinho will quickly ditch him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Sissoko is **** awful, diabolical player, West Ham level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 When it all goes wrong. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Shame... I used to like Mourinho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Will have Lo Celso and Sessegnon available as soon as they get back to full fitness will likely help things along a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 14 hours ago, villa4europe said: on poch, Bayern is available now, come the end of the season there could be a job at utd, arsenal, Dortmund, psg or barca with his pay off too and lets be honest levy's ambition to be the new arsenal, its not the worst thing in the world for him He'll end up at PSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 17 hours ago, Keyblade said: Sack a manager who was floundering because you refused to back him to revamp the squad, then hire a checkbook manager. Genius from Levy. Could be. Mourinho at Porto revamped the careers of players who you might've thought had reached their ceiling. Winning the CL with a team from outside the top five European leagues is a great accomplishment, it might never happen again. It's not like he was poor at Chelsea, Inter or Real. He is a notable and memorable achiever with each. United is the only place he was unable to emulate his ability to compete at the very top, even then he won two trophies in his first season there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 its been 15 years since he won the CL with porto, a lot of mileage since then, I think he's declined, lost a bit of his mojo, it all depends on how the players react to him (and no doubt the coaching team he sets up around him) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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