Popular Post limpid Posted November 23, 2015 Administrator Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2015 2 hours ago, Wainy316 said: Regarding halal, as the point of it is to drain all the blood from the animal, does that mean you can never have a bloody steak? No the point of it is to be unnecessarily cruel to the animal and it should be banned. Until it's banned it should be branded as "pro-cruelty" so that people don't accidentally eat it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 23, 2015 Moderator Share Posted November 23, 2015 49 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Modern day feminists are words removed, every single one of them Blimey! Most of 'em are absolutely fine, though there's a few wackos. Anyone campaigning for equality or equal treatment and opportunity is OK, that's a good thing. it's when it turns into what appears to be a desire for overriding supremacy and advantage or man hating that is parodic that it becomes just daft. This Uni thing is another example of outrageists winning over sanity. There seems to be more of that sort of thing happening. Every different part of society fighting to have their particular viewpoint proclaimed as the only one that can be spoken and that all others must be silenced. They become the opposite of what they claim to be "we want a fair and equal and free society.... No you can't voice that view, no you can't come to our uni, no you can't say that" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maqroll Posted November 23, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) I'm picking up on some very pointed microaggressions here... Edited November 23, 2015 by maqroll 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted November 23, 2015 Administrator Share Posted November 23, 2015 8 minutes ago, maqroll said: I'm picking up on some very pointed microaggressions here... Who are you calling micro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 6 minutes ago, maqroll said: I picking up on some very pointed microaggressions here... VT needs a safe space. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) 12 minutes ago, blandy said: Blimey! Most of 'em are absolutely fine, though there's a few wackos. Anyone campaigning for equality or equal treatment and opportunity is OK, that's a good thing. it's when it turns into what appears to be a desire for overriding supremacy and advantage or man hating that is parodic that it becomes just daft. This Uni thing is another example of outrageists winning over sanity. There seems to be more of that sort of thing happening. Every different part of society fighting to have their particular viewpoint proclaimed as the only one that can be spoken and that all others must be silenced. They become the opposite of what they claim to be "we want a fair and equal and free society.... No you can't voice that view, no you can't come to our uni, no you can't say that" As you say blandy, feminism is fine and a worthy cause. Militant feminism is not. Oh and 7/10 WB Edited November 23, 2015 by Xela 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I'm picking up on some very pointed microaggressions here... Mine is due to blandy coining the phrase "outrageists" 😉 Don't give these melons a grouping, call them what they are, words removed 😇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 27 minutes ago, coda said: VT needs a safe space. I've heard there's a clearing in the woods nearby where people are more nice to each other 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) 1 hour ago, limpid said: No the point of it is to be unnecessarily cruel to the animal and it should be banned. Until it's banned it should be branded as "pro-cruelty" so that people don't accidentally eat it. All meat is pro cruelty. (Hey, some funny bastard put some Geldof lyrics under my name, I've got to live up to it) Edited November 23, 2015 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 3 hours ago, BOF said: That's the mildest form of vegetarian I've ever heard of. I know veggies who will throw away an entire meal if any piece of cutlery touches their plate having touched another plate that had meat on it, regardless of whether the cutlery touched the meat or not. I think that's what can give vegetarians a bad name, the fact that some of them are properly bad mental. yeah, conclusive proof I'm one of the good guys I was doing it to save the planet and feed the world. The land and water and drugs we waste growing feed for animals to then eat the animals is ridiculous. We have bacteria in China and Malaysia that are now both fully resistant to the anti biotics of last resort and capable of jumping species or carriers with ease. This is at least in part because we routinely, worldwide, pump our animals full of drugs we can't afford to give to the poor. It's truly obscene. Forget ISIS, we put the pieces in place years ago to make sure future generations have a thoroughly horrible time of it. Don't get a cut or a break on the football field in 2025, there will be a good chance it kills you. We're burning down the rainforest so teenagers can get fat on burgers. For some bizarre reason, we've persuaded the Chinese to drink more milk. A lot more milk. So that's more cattle, needing more land for cattle feed. But yeah, you know, no point in getting precious or preachy. People like some sausage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 4 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I'd like to think if that was me, I'd say "look, book wherever you want to go, and we can ask them if they can accommodate my requirements. if they can't I won't eat lunch and I'll just have a drink or something" But this woman just immediately said, when the original choice was made, "Oh we can't go there, there's nothing on the menu I can eat" What a word removed. When I'm out with work/friends I just tag along with wherever the majority want to go, and figure something out with the waitress/chef if they don't have a set veggie menu. It must be quite an odd place you're going to though, I've not come across anywhere that hasn't been incredibly accommodating with food substitutions. Even TGI Fridays put me something together from different parts of the menu when nothing obvious jumped out. I guess with Christmas it might be a bit more problematic with set menus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 International Men's Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Just now, HanoiVillan said: International Men's Day. What's wrong with it? If it raises awareness and opens support channels for men who have mental health issues, then it's only a good thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 It doesn't raise awareness of men's mental health issues, it gives Fathers 4 Justice types an opportunity to bore on about how 'they're the real victims'. Male mental health issues aren't the problem, working class mental health issues are. The increase in male suicide rate is almost entirely amongst men with lower educational attainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Just like other days give overzealous feminists the same opportunity? The people on both extremes of the equality spectrum are annoying as hell. And would be even without these days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Women at least have the excuse that they genuinely do suffer discrimination. But yes, I do think it's fairly ironic witnessing the type of men who've spent literally years and years moaning about feminism suddenly discovering the joys of being able to proclaim themselves victims. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 People who say things like "I'm in a really good place right now." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post penguin Posted November 23, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) In this case maybe they are the victims? This seems to be the same attitude which creates such amimosity towards certain feminists and leads to the situations previously linked; just because one group may experience more discrimination it doesn't make issues attaining to the other group any less important or not genuine. When 75% of those who have commited suicide which are latest figures I could find for the UK, the figure is even higher at 79% in the US, are Male there clearly is an issue and implying there isn't or it isn't relevant because this apparent 'only women's issues are worthy of attention ' attitude is clearly flawed and contrary the premise of equality. Edited November 23, 2015 by penguin 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 An increasingly automated and specialized economy has unsurprisingly pushed the undertrained, under skilled and undereducated to a point where they start to think they as men are redundant. I think basic despair as a direct correlation to their economic prospects is what drives so many of these suicides, not necessarily a diagnosed disorder. Men who are aged out at 50 or so, and are essentially told to **** off, there's no room for you anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 26 minutes ago, maqroll said: An increasingly automated and specialized economy has unsurprisingly pushed the undertrained, under skilled and undereducated to a point where they start to think they as men are redundant. I think basic despair as a direct correlation to their economic prospects is what drives so many of these suicides, not necessarily a diagnosed disorder. Men who are aged out at 50 or so, and are essentially told to **** off, there's no room for you anymore. Yes, this. Very well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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