villa4europe Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 43 minutes ago, blandy said: This isn’t an argument, but I read some years ago that Newcastle has the largest unique catchment area of any club. If I remember it correctly, the study looked at distances to the next club(s) and then split that halfway and so drew a border around each club ground, and then counted the population within it. My memory is very hazy, but they had something like 2.8 million people in their zone. It may be a factor, perhaps, or just someone playing with maths. Regardless, anyway, if you take away the gurning for the media numpties that all clubs have, Newcastle fans always seemed to me from going to away games there and talking to them, as a really good bunch. The media coverage they get doesn’t really represent them as I see them. They’re sort of portrayed as über passionate, tunnel vision obsessives. They’re not much different to any other set of fans. Sounds slightly better than my GCSE attempt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 24, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, bobzy said: If it's going to Carlisle (a league club) then yes, must have been. Must have been all league clubs counted , but PL sides measured, if that makes sense - not just (then) distance to other prem clubs only. Like I say, not after an argument, I just remember the article as it surprised me at the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Moustache of Teale Posted February 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2023 11 hours ago, bobzy said: You said they're uniquely positioned not to lose fans to other clubs. That makes no sense at all. What makes someone from Birmingham more likely to support Man Utd than someone from Newcastle? I’d say that the cultural mix of the cities, as @villa4europe alluded to, also plays a big part here these days. Birmingham is a very multicultural city, and quite a portion of the asian population, from my experience, supports the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool in particular. I’m not wishing to generalise here, I have a number of Asian work colleagues who are Villa fans too, but one of the reasons I hate losing to Man Utd or Liverpool is having to face their ‘fans’ at work on Monday morning. And I work in Birmingham city centre. Certainly, that’s the way I see things in terms of my own work colleagues and neighbours. When I look back to my childhood in the 1970s and early 80s, that wasn’t the case; the majority of people in this city supported Villa, Birmingham, or to a lesser extent West Brom, dependent on where in the city they were located. My wife is a Geordie and I spend a lot of time in the North East. Whilst things have changed a little, there isn’t the same cultural mix in Newcastle and the people there, and in the surrounding areas, are overwhelmingly Newcastle fans. Walk around the Metrocentre in Gateshead and it’s a shock to see a kid in a Man U or Liverpool top. Walk around Merry Hill centre and you’ll see kids in Wolves, West Brom and Villa tops, but just as likely Man U, Liverpool, and tragically now even Man City tops. So, in my opinion, that’s what makes someone from Birmingham more likely to support Man Utd than someone from Newcastle is. I hope that doesn’t come across as controversial or contentious, that was absolutely not my intention, but I do think it’s part of the reason as to why Newcastle, combined with its remote geographical location, has a loyal and partisan following within its potential catchment area. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 A lot of children of immigrants, especially from countries which don’t speak English (ie much of the Indian subcontinent) ended up supporting Liverpool and Manchester United because they didn’t feel the geographical tie to their city, didn’t have a parent whose footsteps to follow in and for the most part just wanted to back a winning horse. I’m not sure it’s the case in Newcastle, it was absolutely the case (in my experience) in the West Midlands. source: married one of ‘em. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted February 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2023 good good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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villa4europe Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Now just **** the league up, finish 7th and then have Brighton win the FA Cup taking europe away from them, don't even want them to finish 8th I want that extra kick in the teeth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post The Fun Factory Posted February 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2023 Thank McGrath for that. It was dirty wanting ManU to win but it had to be done. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted February 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2023 A massive shame that Spurs have jumped them into that champions league space too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted February 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2023 Why are Sky being so obsessive over Newcastle? The commentators are acting like they’re the official club of the country and as if them losing is heartbreaking for everyone. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Genie Posted February 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2023 Just now, CLARETANDBLUEFOXY said: Why are Sky being so obsessive over Newcastle? The commentators are acting like they’re the official club of the country and as if them losing is heartbreaking for everyone. Mark Chapman was just saying how every ”man, woman and child” had stayed to see the end of the game even though they were losing. Then it shows the stadium with thousands of empty seats in the Newcastle end. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, CLARETANDBLUEFOXY said: Why are Sky being so obsessive over Newcastle? The commentators are acting like they’re the official club of the country and as if them losing is heartbreaking for everyone. Everyone hates them except the media. Same as Everton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 So many empty seats in general in the man United end. Couldn’t imagine be that too used to success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Just now, CLARETANDBLUEFOXY said: So many empty seats in general in the man United end. Couldn’t imagine be that too used to success. To be honest it's because Wembley is a nightmare to get away from after games. If I was a united fan today I'd have left once the board for the number of added minutes went up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 minute ago, CLARETANDBLUEFOXY said: So many empty seats in general in the man United end. Couldn’t imagine be that too used to success. I can’t see them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Genie said: I can’t see them? Really? There were tons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, villa89 said: To be honest it's because Wembley is a nightmare to get away from after games. If I was a united fan today I'd have left once the board for the number of added minutes went up. Yeah to be fair you’re not wrong. I’ve had the experience after games and after gigs and it’s horrendous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Sob on the Thames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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