BOF Posted June 14, 2013 Moderator Share Posted June 14, 2013 Park Ji SungClassic centremid.How was the point meant to be taken then, Sir BOF?Just read back and take my post the way you didn't take it first time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Last Summer I was worried about Westwood and Lowton because of the leagues they were coming from being lower than our own. Clearly they stepped up to the mark though, so now I am a lot less worried about the signings Lambert makes from other leagues as I trust his judgement. I see that maybe he would need to adjust to the physical aspects of the game in our league but taking his age into consideration I think it is probable he will be able to. Either way, as it stands we have no idea where Lambert wants to play him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 He's Leandro Bacuna He loves a chicken bhuna He scores with shots From outside the box So should have joined us sooner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I think the talk of him being average is one that some could have layed at the feet of alot of our squad last season. Once Lambert gets hold of him I think we'll see this kid come on leaps and bounds. An example of Lambert, Kara and Culverhouses' coaching can be sen in just how much Fabian Delph has come on. He was consistently one of our best players from March onwards. You could also argue though that Delph's improvement was due to being injury free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain-from-Texas Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I know nothing about Bacuna apart from what I've read in the last two or three days. And from what I've read, he sounds a lot like Reo-Coker: great energy, box-to-box, and not great technique or passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 If he plays CM he will be amazing . I can not think of a single Dutch player who has not been a great CM in the Premier League . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 If he plays CM he will be amazing . I can not think of a single Dutch player who has not been a great CM in the Premier League . Nabil Abidallah Kemy Agustien Vurnon Anita George Boateng Paul Bosvelt Jordi Cryuff Daniel de Ridder Karim El Ahmadi Alfons Groenendijk Wim Jonk Denny Landzaat Martin Reuser Richard Sneekes Orlando Trustfull Robin van der Laan Richard Witschge All footballing luminaries... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1Avfc Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 In his own words hes a box to box mid. I thought PL was going to put Tonev CAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamsonwoodVillan Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I can see a starting team in August that includes... Weimann (right wing) Agbonlahor (left wing) Benteke (centre forward) Westwood, Delph and Bacuna (central midfield) I think Tonev will be with Albrighton and N'Zogbia as competition for the wide berths. Weimann may have more of central role behind Benteke, with one of those 3 playing wide, if Lambert wants to be super attacking in a game for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 can see zoggy being sold this window with tonev back up to gabby and albrighton back up to andi if he can get back to being match fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 What stage of his development is Bacuna at and how would you describe his playing style? Bacuna is basically a piece of raw talent. He is right-footed, very strong, with a high workrate, energetic and quite pacy. He has the ability to play a full game with intensity and he comes across very eager. His passing is good, but not outstanding. Sounds like a Dutch Holman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) @Damsonwoodvilla Not a chance Bacuna will oust Sylla at start who was the better player than Delph IMO Edited June 14, 2013 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 you've made at least half of those players up p3te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamsonwoodVillan Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I just say a feeling I have, could be completely wrong. We need more goals from mimidfield and I think Bacuna could provide a couple to tempt lambert to pick him. I definitely felt Delph had a big impact from February onwards. I still think Sylla looked raw although he did basically well in the role ge was given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Tonev will be ahead of him and looks more likely to score from the midfield. Bacuna will be bench cover at this stage from the little that I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax-fan Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) Hi all! Another Dutch player!? The last signings didn't worked that well, I am suprised! Lot of guff in there. A fair bit of it split between Sheffield Wednesday and, erm, ourselves. First off, I really wanted to quote this one, even though it has nothing to do with Bacuna Ah I misunderstood guff lol. Just wanted to say, who are all these players!? hehe If he plays CM he will be amazing . I can not think of a single Dutch player who has not been a great CM in the Premier League . Nabil Abidallah Kemy Agustien Vurnon Anita George Boateng Paul Bosvelt Jordi Cryuff Daniel de Ridder Karim El Ahmadi Alfons Groenendijk Wim Jonk Denny Landzaat Martin Reuser Richard Sneekes Orlando Trustfull Robin van der Laan Richard Witschge All footballing luminaries... Argh another list of unknown players! Robin van der Laan!? Google says ... played 86 games in Holland at two very small clubs and over 300 games in England! (at very small clubs as well) Reuser failed in Holland as well, also counts for Augustien, De Ridder and Sneekes (didn't he play American Football!?). Most of the others weren't exactly giants here as well If you want good players which you know for sure they will make it, (least risk possible) don't look at smaller leagues. A big group of them didn't even succeed in smaller leagues hehe. I'm afraid Bacuna is one of them, so most importantly.. Leandro Bacuna! What a suprise move. I was stunned when I read this news. He is seen as a fairly poor player. Big ego, very wild player, overly agressive. Therefor bit of a card collector. (always wanted to say this in English simply means he gets alot of cards) I can’t see him succeed at Villa. His ball handling isn’t so poor, he just rushes things very much. His free kicks and penalties are his best qualities I guess. Also high energy, but as player not comparable with Holman. Groningen is a decent team, but not spectaculair at all. 1 million euro is serious business for them. For any Dutch team (excluding the bigger ones like Ajax, Twente, Vitesse, PSV) in fact. If you want good midfielders from the Dutch league, go for: Van Ginkel (Vitesse) Siem de Jong and Eriksen (Ajax) Perhaps Enoh as well? Still think he's at least as good as Tioté. Loaned out at Fulham, shouldn't cost as much as De Jong or Eriksen. In fact should be pretty cheap.. Strootman (PSV) or Toivonen if you need more attacking midfielders. I personally think Hutchinson could make it as well, more risky though. Fer (FC Twente) From ‘smaller’ teams like Groningen. Cheaper but more risky: Toornstra (FC Utrecht) Kali is free agent, I would picked him as well over Bacuna Duarte (Heracles) Hupperts (Roda JC) I understand Aston Villa isn’t a rich team anymore? All these transfers are pretty ‘unknown’ players. It’s abit like you are playing in the Dutch league! Risky but cheap transfers and hoping one of them is a gem hehe. Welcome to our world But you guys really need a better scout for Belgium, (lots of talented players there!) Netherlands and maybe other countries as well. Bacuna needs a miracle to succeed. And I know my predictions have been shit about El Ahmadi and Bradley. Altough I said El Ahmadi is abit of a wuss I was right about Holman and Vlaar ( pretty decent but not that good?) though hehe.. I would love to see Helenius at Ajax! Heard so many good things about him. I don’t know him as player, just he is very populair prospect for many Dutch teams. I think he will be that ‘gem’ next season at Aston Villa. Edited June 14, 2013 by Ajax-fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Hi all! Another Dutch player!? The last signings didn't worked that well, I am suprised! Lot of guff in there. A fair bit of it split between Sheffield Wednesday and, erm, ourselves. First off, I really wanted to quote this one, even though it has nothing to do with Bacuna Ah I misunderstood guff lol. Just wanted to say, who are all these players!? hehe If he plays CM he will be amazing . I can not think of a single Dutch player who has not been a great CM in the Premier League . Nabil Abidallah Kemy Agustien Vurnon Anita George Boateng Paul Bosvelt Jordi Cryuff Daniel de Ridder Karim El Ahmadi Alfons Groenendijk Wim Jonk Denny Landzaat Martin Reuser Richard Sneekes Orlando Trustfull Robin van der Laan Richard Witschge All footballing luminaries... Argh another list of unknown players! Robin van der Laan!? Google says ... played 86 games in Holland at two very small clubs and over 300 games in England! (at very small clubs as well) Reuser failed in Holland as well, also counts for Augustien, De Ridder and Sneekes (didn't he play American Football!?). Most of the others weren't exactly giants here as well If you want good players which you know for sure they will make it, (least risk possible) don't look at smaller leagues. A big group of them didn't even succeed in smaller leagues hehe. I'm afraid Bacuna is one of them, so most importantly.. The original poster said he couldn't think of a single dutch midfielder who wasn't great in the premiership, so i provided a list of them. There was no mention of smaller players, bigger players or anything like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Nigel De Jong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Hes signed as a versatile player not a starter. I still think another attacker will be signed. Popov? Gone quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Therefor bit of a card collector. (always wanted to say this in English simply means he gets alot of cards) Oh, we have one of those already in Fabian Delph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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