GENTLEMAN Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Newcastle and Tottenham both up for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted September 11, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) I'd like to see something similar for net spend - more meaningful. A pie chart wouldn't work for the net figures, some clubs made a profit. You can't have a slice of pie with negative mass. I dont know, tescos are trying for it with their apple pies! Edited September 11, 2014 by Nigel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Newcastle and Tottenham both up for sale. And Hull are too (and have been for 5 months) Alam has just announced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 11, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) The Hull sale seems pathetic, because the bloke couldn't rename them the Hull Tigers he no longer wants the club? But if the appeal is successful he'll take them off the market? Was rebranding the club to a name that no one wanted really that important? Aaaah meh... guess that's for a Hull thread. Edited September 11, 2014 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 If Randy gets Vlaar, Delph and Grealish on new contracts then he is back in my good books! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 If Randy gets Vlaar, Delph and Grealish on new contracts then he is back in my good books! I suspect it will be 2 out of the 3. Grealish 90% likely to sign, Delph 60% and Vlaar 30%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I think Delph could be dodgy England international now. Few clubs will be sniffing. Then theres the fact Lambert's contract is up, why would you sign if you don't know if he'll be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packoman Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 So that probably brings Delph down to about 53.8% chance of signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) I think Delph could be dodgy England international now. Few clubs will be sniffing. Then theres the fact Lambert's contract is up, why would you sign if you don't know if he'll be here. I knocked Delph down from 70% to 60% based on his decent England performance. I think most players will be more attracted by a large value contract and the opportunity to play in the Premier League for a decent size club than the contract status of a manager yet to prove himself convincingly. Edited September 11, 2014 by brommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 So after 4 awful years he decides to sell the club and we follow that up by hiring a good assistant manager, a good CEO, changing the transfer business to allow more experience to be signed and start signing key players to new deals. Has the fact it seems no one is interested in buying the club shocked Lerner into running us properly again? Hopefully if this continues we should more attractive next summer. I'd love to credit Randy with all that - but I don't think it was his good decision making: - Lambert would have hired Keane - Our former CEO left, so this decision was forced. And let's face it - any half decent CEO could hardly make the club worse. - Transfer targets are surely left to Lambert. He has ditched the "young and hungry" but the budget hasn't really changed. - We signed key players to deals before (see Benteke) and we still have some coming off contract this year (Vlaar, Delph, and possibly Grealish) so not much has changed there. Randy you'd imagine gave him the green light to at least restablish the likes of Hutton and Bent in the first team squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted September 12, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2014 Randy you'd imagine gave him the green light to at least restablish the likes of Hutton and Bent in the first team squad. Last time I checked, the owner didn't pick the squad. I'm certain Randy gave Lambert instructions as to who he should look to move on (Dunne, Collins, Hutton, Bent, etc) .... ... but the decision to put these players into the "bomb squad" and not use them at all was always Lambert's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Randy you'd imagine gave him the green light to at least restablish the likes of Hutton and Bent in the first team squad. Last time I checked, the owner didn't pick the squad. I'm certain Randy gave Lambert instructions as to who he should look to move on (Dunne, Collins, Hutton, Bent, etc) .... ... but the decision to put these players into the "bomb squad" and not use them at all was always Lambert's. Strange how Hutton said different in an interview. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 And remember Fox approached Villa about the job. Not the other way around. is this true?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Randy you'd imagine gave him the green light to at least restablish the likes of Hutton and Bent in the first team squad. Last time I checked, the owner didn't pick the squad. I'm certain Randy gave Lambert instructions as to who he should look to move on (Dunne, Collins, Hutton, Bent, etc) .... ... but the decision to put these players into the "bomb squad" and not use them at all was always Lambert's. Ummmm, no it wasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Villarocker Posted September 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) So that is now four Premier League clubs up for sale. Is this pure coincidence or is this the beginning of the death of the Premier League due to the huge and obscene amounts of money needed to compete? Let's face it, if you own something that takes part in competitions, you would want a realistic chance to win something in exchange for your investment. English football is currently just an open trophy store to a select band of clubs - Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal, with the exception of the odd cup upset. This is also where the biggest names wish to play their football and even if they do play for another top flight club, they only use it as a stepping stone until a "bigger" club comes in for them. What happens if other non elite clubs follow suit and their owners lose belief in the hope of ever winning anything? How long would it then be before a certain group of clubs decide to part company with the elite, or, will it be the elite clubs that seek to part company first and live their dream of a European League, with the rest of the elite clubs from around Europe? Whatever happens, I believe that having three other Premier League clubs up for sale cannot be good for Villa. We have an owner who has had enough and wants to sell up. He's going to find that even harder to do now, surely. And, if that is the case, Villa are only going to continue to struggle in the bargain basement of the Premier League, unless of course Lerner somehow re-ignites his passion for the club. Edited September 12, 2014 by villarocker 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted September 12, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2014 Strange how Hutton said different in an interview. Did he now? Was it this one from the Mail Online? Or is it this one from the Guardian? Let me reiterate: There is no doubt that Randy gave Lambert instructions as to who he should look to move on - Hutton included. However, the decision to not play them at all is apparently Randy's if you believe the Mail Online - or Lambert's if you believe the Guardian. Since I find it rather amusing that Mail Online think that an owner who didn't turn up to watch a single game last season is charged with picking the team, I'll stick with the Guardian's take on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) The same was also in The Mirror (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-outcast-alan-hutton-4066220?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) and was backed up by Trent who is spot on about Villa, and obviously gets info from somebody at Villa. If anything I'll back Trent's line all the time. Hutton in the article said: " “The only thing I could do was come in and train every day, keep going and that’s what I did. In my contact and meetings with the manager, there was never anything bad between us. It was just a situation we were in and there was nothing we could do about it." Edited September 12, 2014 by dodgyknees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Offer in for Spurs from some investment firm ..price for Spurs a reasonable £1bil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomaspg Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) they got some bids in pretty quick didn't they. they are in a lot better shape and london based, guess that does alot. I think its FFP causing clubs to sell rather than it costing too much. theres always people who are willing to blow tons of money to show off. the top clubs are now cemented in place, man utd might be a bit lower down on the table but their massive income from the fanbase they already have means they can still buy their way back into the top 4. anyone else really doesnt have much of a chance do they? why would anyone want to buy a club that they know have 0% chance of winning or even getting close to champions league. im just sad that we cant get a rich person to buy us some success! i think if lerner really wants us sold its going to have to be at a cut price. and i dont think that person would have the financial power to spend more than we are now. were probably stuck with lerner for the foreseable future Edited September 12, 2014 by tomaspg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Surely results like that one today, and streaks like the one we're enjoying at the moment only serve to make us more visible. Spurs and Newcastle being for sale will also potentially be a good thing for us, given how much more they'd cost. With other clubs now available for comparison, and us (temporarily) riding high, we've got to be increasingly attractive for buyers - plus we're self sufficient. Quick Randy, sell before it all comes crashing down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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