Chindie Posted May 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, maqroll said: I'm not so sure about that. It looks like if anyone is guilty, they're attached to the Trump campaign and his immediate staff, meaning nobody on Capitol Hill is worried, unless Trump has a card up his sleeve. But he's too dumb for that. I'm perhaps ignorant of US politics, but in the UK if there was proof a Labour or Tory PM was tainted in such a way they had the resign, the stink would be attached to the party so intrinsically they would do everything to prevent the story touching them, so unless something catastrophic caught them off guard they would carefully manoeuvre things to make the problem go away with the minimum of fuss and keeping it at arms length. Id assume the US parties are the same? Or would only the administration be tainted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, Chindie said: I'm perhaps ignorant of US politics, but in the UK if there was proof a Labour or Tory PM was tainted in such a way they had the resign, the stink would be attached to the party so intrinsically they would do everything to prevent the story touching them, so unless something catastrophic caught them off guard they would carefully manoeuvre things to make the problem go away with the minimum of fuss and keeping it at arms length. Id assume the US parties are the same? Or would only the administration be tainted? The issue is the US system is the three branches of government are independent. So while, in theory, Trump should taint the GOP, there's every chance he won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I can't begin to imagine the car crash that Trump is going to be at the G7 come the end of May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Not unhinged in the slightest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 12, 2017 Holy shit, the man is a loony. You'd think by now he would have wised up a little but it's getting worse. Comedians can't even make fun of him because he does it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Awol Posted May 12, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: Not unhinged in the slightest. He really is, it's like watching some utter [bad word deleted] come apart on reality tv, but they live in the White House, not a council house. Mad. Edit: sorry for the naughty word. Edited May 13, 2017 by Awol Swearing 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) He's having a map of the election result put up in the White House apparently. Obsessed. And his team isn't happy that, after letting the Russians into the Oval Office and bringing a photographer with them, that the Russians published the photos... What else were they going to do with them?! They don't involve enough piss for the file, allegedly. Edited May 12, 2017 by Chindie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 12, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 12, 2017 It's like when Vanessa Feltz had a breakdown on Celebrity Big Brother. He's genuinely not well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 12, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 12, 2017 PS - here's the picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 1 hour ago, StefanAVFC said: Not unhinged in the slightest. What will he have to offer the Russians to get them released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) "With few exceptions" I suppose Trump has never told a lie, with a few exceptions... Edited May 12, 2017 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Remember all our musing earlier in the thread about whether Trump would pivot to become statesmanlike after the election 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 12 hours ago, Chindie said: I'm perhaps ignorant of US politics, but in the UK if there was proof a Labour or Tory PM was tainted in such a way they had the resign, the stink would be attached to the party so intrinsically they would do everything to prevent the story touching them, so unless something catastrophic caught them off guard they would carefully manoeuvre things to make the problem go away with the minimum of fuss and keeping it at arms length. Id assume the US parties are the same? Or would only the administration be tainted? We'll see- this is all pretty unusual. I'm sure the GOP rank and file are thinking about their strategies. The longer they publicly defend Trump, the less credibility they have, and they open themselves up to defeat in 2018. This latest threat to Comey about "tapes" might just seal it for some. Monday will be very interesting I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted May 13, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, maqroll said: The end is near for Trump. "Art of the Deal", don't make me laugh. This has been the most high profile personal **** up I've ever seen. He might have been able to weasel his way out of this if he just STFU. But he's so monumentally stupid, he's gone and put himself in pretty serious legal trouble with a prison sentence involved if it's as bad as it's looking. The new FBI head made it sound like they've got something on him. It's gonna be a really long weekend. Fingers crossed. I can't even begin to surmise the past 48 hours. It's sadly compelling, as @Awol said, in the same way someone on reality TV having a breakdown is compelling. But I'm sick of it. The man is poison, and the GOP are all opportunist, spineless clearings in the woods. A country needs leadership. He's threatened to stop all White House press briefings FFS. Edited May 13, 2017 by TheAuthority 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 I'm enjoying watching his supporters explain this away. Their desperation is becoming palpable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 21 hours ago, maqroll said: The end is near for Trump. 4 hours ago, maqroll said: I'm enjoying watching his supporters explain this away. I'm not trying to be a dick, but aren't these sentiments kind of mutually incompatible? I mean, that his supporters are still in the media making excuses for him - however desperate - seems to me prima facie evidence that he's not going to be impeached any time soon. There's no publicly-available evidence of any wrongdoing yet. I think there's a bit of 'letting the wish be the father to the thought' in this thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 13, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 13, 2017 9 hours ago, LondonLax said: Remember all our musing earlier in the thread about whether Trump would pivot to become statesmanlike after the election I fess up. I was totally wrong on that one. Bigly so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 49 minutes ago, blandy said: I fess up. I was totally wrong on that one. Bigly so. I also thought he was more machiavellian/playing to his crowd but it appears he is just totally mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 13, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 13, 2017 12 hours ago, TheAuthority said: A country needs leadership. He's threatened to stop all White House press briefings FFS. The country has leadership - Trumps job is making sure that the population don't notice it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted May 13, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 13, 2017 2 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: The country has leadership - Trumps job is making sure that the population don't notice it. This is from April 24th. Quote As of Thursday, the White House had yet to put forward the names of candidates for 475 of the 554 key positions that require Senate confirmation, according to the Partnership for Public Service, a nonpartisan group that advises incoming administrations. The longest list of empty desks waiting for nominations is at the State Department, which has more than 100 vacancies, including the dozens of ambassadors appointed by the Obama administration who were fired by Trump on Inauguration Day. http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/24/help-wanted-trump-administration-still-has-hundreds-of-jobs-to-fill.html I know what you are inferring, but just the people who run the nuts and bolts of government have not been appointed or nominated. Dozens of ambassadors are yet to be appointed FFS. This administration is a sh^t show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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