sne Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 32 minutes ago, bobzy said: Do you think he’s found not guilty if he’s black? He'd been shot dead by police, or by MAGA's who'd then been found not guilty for that shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Honestly, if you encounter a teenager carrying an assault rifle, what on earth makes you think running at him is a good idea? These people died in part because of their own stupidity. Obviously I haven't sat through the entire trial so my opinion is moot, but it does look to me like they had a legitimate case for self defence. He was attacked and acted within the laws of the state. If the law allows you to carry an assault rifle in public then it should be expected you are going to use it to kill somebody, otherwise what's the point? It should be America on trial here, not Kyle Rittenhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 16 hours ago, Chindie said: It does set a fun precedent going forwards. Many Americans love the idea of the Good Guy with a Gun intervening in a shooting, but in this basis if a Good Guy with a Gun tries to stop a shooter and gets shot themselves, it's self defence on the shooters part. Brilliant. The words removed sewn up his future political/lobbying industry career though. He's 17 years old. Most of us did incredibly stupid shit when we were 17. Most of us here, fortunately, don't live in a country where taking an assault rifle to a riot and shooting people in self defence is perfectly legal. Not only is it legal, it is advertised as your god given right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 32 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Honestly, if you encounter a teenager carrying an assault rifle, what on earth makes you think running at him is a good idea? These people died in part because of their own stupidity. Obviously I haven't sat through the entire trial so my opinion is moot, but it does look to me like they had a legitimate case for self defence. He was attacked and acted within the laws of the state. If the law allows you to carry an assault rifle in public then it should be expected you are going to use it to kill somebody, otherwise what's the point? It should be America on trial here, not Kyle Rittenhouse. I did watch most of the trail and the prosecution was unbelievably dodgy. Based on the evidence it was obvious he’d walk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Seems to me like the President should spend less time trying to be woke and more time trying to stay awake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Seat68 said: Perhaps just an error as the article on who was shot is fairly detailed and doesn't make the same error. What propaganda out of interest. Are we sure this picture isn't 'fake news'?: EDIT: Also meant to at @TreeVillan Edited November 20, 2021 by HanoiVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 One of the very few times gun laws were tightened up, was when the Black Panther movement started using the law in the same way others were. Keeping it legal but making it obvious they could defend themselves with lethal force. In a ‘normal’ society it would be ridiculous to suggest that perhaps that exercise needs to be revisited to see if it could be brought up to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I’m surprised by the number of comments on here saying this is the “right” verdict. Very surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, bobzy said: I’m surprised by the number of comments on here saying this is the “right” verdict. Very surprised. Did you watch the trial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Awol said: Did you watch the trial? Not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted November 20, 2021 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2021 34 minutes ago, bobzy said: I’m surprised by the number of comments on here saying this is the “right” verdict. Very surprised. It's right because he didn't break any laws You can't judge a trial in the US by our own standards and laws, you have to judge it by theirs. Their laws are insane to our way of thinking, judge that not the trial 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, bobzy said: Not at all. Then I’m not surprised that you are surprised. Media coverage constructed a completely false narrative, as did the prosecution. It looked highly likely at one point that the judge would rule it a mistrial with prejudice, based on the malfeasance of the prosecution. Best thing I’ve watched on screen for years, really gripping. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted November 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) I just saw it on the BBC news … pre the shooting he turned up armed with an automatic rifle and told a reporter , if there is trouble I’m heading towards it to help out , that’s why I brought my rifle he then happened to find trouble and kill 2 people In any other country in the world that’s pre -meditated murder , in America he walks ? absolutely bat shit crazy , Edited November 20, 2021 by tonyh29 Edit - been pointed out the victims weren’t black 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 20, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2021 There going to be an awful lot of self defence going around at any protests in future. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will87 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: he then happened to find trouble and kill 2 black people They weren't black. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, will87 said: They weren't black. Ah my bad … the way the BBC framed the story I just assumed they were ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Ah my bad … the way the BBC framed the story I just assumed they were ! Of course, you’re supposed to. Also, he didn’t find those two convicted felons (1 x serial pedophile and 1 x domestic violence), he was running from them as they tried to kill him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Awol said: (1 x serial pedophile and 1 x domestic violence), As I’ve posted previously it’s absolutely the right verdict and it shouldn’t have gone to trial but I wish people would stop bringing this up. It’s not relevant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Few people looking on quite envious wishing they could travel around with a semi automatic military grade weapon looking to ‘defend themselves’. A mad, bad, place. Thankfully it’s a lot harder for excitable little boys to play soldier in this country. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: I wish people would stop bringing this up. It’s not relevant. Yes, he had no idea what their pasts were when he shot them dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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